Real Madrid (old thread)

[FCBarca]

We don't have your obsession with the man , Jose is our coach he will do the job and move on one day .. we don't need to hate nor love him we just respect his work
you on the other hand stalk him all the time in every thread.. get help

You also need to spin for him apparently...Only one who needs help is someone who can't accept reality which you would fall under the heading of there senor

 

[woobie]

Um. Beast, isn't your best centerback well into his 30s? What are you going to do when Carvalho retires?

 

[Xavi_78]

tThe question is if you not produce good players or if they are not given the chance. For me Canales is one oft the most promising talents. Last smumer during the U21 him and Thiago seemed to be the future. But look know: Thiago is getting more and more minutes in the first time, not only in the Copa and Canales, you hardly hear of him anymore.

 

[Beast]

Um. Beast, isn't your best centerback well into his 30s? What are you going to do when Carvalho retires?

Pepe is our best CB Woobie and he is not in his 30's and apart from Ricardo and Dudek the rest of the team average age is mid 20's .. in case you didn't notice

tThe question is if you not produce good players or if they are not given the chance. For me Canales is one oft the most promising talents. Last smumer during the U21 him and Thiago seemed to be the future. But look know: Thiago is getting more and more minutes in the first time, not only in the Copa and Canales, you hardly hear of him anymore.

Man Canales also played in the Copa and Jose did start him early but he didn't impress that much add to that he was out injured several times and it's not like he was planning to play instantly as a starter .. best plan for him is we will get Parejo back in the summer and send him to be farmed on loan for a year in Getafe till he muscle up
It's a win win situation for us

 

[woobie]

Interesting. I'd rate Carvalho above Pepe. Mostly because, well, while Carvalho can be a mean (and occasionally dirty) sob, he doesn't have the mad dog moments Pepe does. I did note the squad age which is generally on the youngish side. My only question is this -- how long will any of these guys remain at Madrid? The players sometimes don't stay all that much longer than the coaches do.

 

[Xavi_78]

to loan him out would be an easy option much more riskfree than to integate him in your team that is fore sure but that also shows that Mou has not the talent or will to educate him himself.

 

[Beast]

Interesting. I'd rate Carvalho above Pepe. Mostly because, well, while Carvalho can be a mean (and occasionally dirty) sob, he doesn't have the mad dog moments Pepe does. I did note the squad age which is generally on the youngish side. My only question is this -- how long will any of these guys remain at Madrid? The players sometimes don't stay all that much longer than the coaches do.

I think Pepe suspension for the Getafe incident cooled him down a lot.. nowadays u seem him running to cool things down with his team mates instead of acting like a maverick and entering fights (see the Clasico for example )
Ricardo add experience + his understanding with Pepe from the Portugal national team time.
They will remain until they want a new challenge or we get a better player , you already saw players like Marcelo and Higuain already in their 5th with us
even if Ricardo retired (probably ) or went back to Portugal we have a 24ish Albiol and Mateos who i think will turn good

 

[Xavi_78]

I think Pepe suspension for the Getafe incident cooled him down a lot.. nowadays u seem him running to cool things down with his team mates instead of acting like a maverick and entering fights (see the Clasico for example )
Ricardo add experience + his understanding with Pepe from the Portugal national team time.
They will remain until they want a new challenge or we get a better player , you already saw players like Marcelo and Higuain already in their 5th with us
even if Ricardo retired (probably ) or went back to Portugal we have a 24ish Albiol and Mateos who i think will turn good

For the sake of it I can not understand that you put your faith in Albiol. If I think of the last Classico in Madrid, he is such a liability.

 

[Beast]

to loan him out would be an easy option much more riskfree than to integate him in your team that is fore sure but that also shows that Mou has not the talent or will to educate him himself.

Jose has the talent but you can see from his post-game interview vs Villarreal what he thinks about la liga in general
"If this had been any other league,I would have waited longer before taking a risk. But in Spain, I had to do that straight away"
he understand the pressure and that a single defeat or a draw would be crisis , to quote Sid Lowe this week "defeats are the new crises, draws are the new defeats and narrow wins the new draws" that's how la liga is with Barca and Real race .
our fans are known to lack patience recently and playing Canales without results can turn him to another Drenthe.
the club want to repeat the Granero , De La Red scenario .. pick our targets , give them a chance to prove themselves with our cousins Getafe gaining starting spot and more experience than get them back in .. sadly for De La Red he could have been Xabi main partner

For the sake of it I can not understand that you put your faith in Albiol. If I think of the last Classico in Madrid, he is such a liability.

If you judge by this than Ricardo,Pepe and Ramos are a lot worse...

one game doesn't tell the whole story even though Albiol screwed up in the last game .. he got talent but need more game time

 

[Xavi_78]

Hm, but as I see it it is not that Granero is setting the world a light. If he does not make progress that he will not make it, not for Madrid (will only be a backup) and not for the NT. I mean did he have a call up for the NT already?

 

[Beast]

His position has Cesc,Xavi,Iniesta..etc not easy to break
but Jose trust him and that's what matters

 

[ricknattery]

best plan for him is we will get Parejo back in the summer and send him to be farmed on loan for a year in Getafe till he muscle up
It's a win win situation for us

that will cost you some millions since the contract with racing says the only team Canales can be loaned out is Racing itself or you pay a clause.
Is Parejo really that good? I think he is another Granero, maybe good for a sub, but not a starter in a big club

And about the mourinho situation, I maintain what I said weeks ago: Mourinho will do more harm than good to RM, but of course we'll have to wait and see what happens

 

[Beast]

Not this winter , next summer it will be ok for him to move.. Getafe is a better farm for us than Racing for so many reasons.
Parejo is doing quite well for Getafe , his advocate is the great man himself Di Stefano who once described him before as the Jewel in the crown of Madrid youth teams .
The club tried to farm Parejo from day one by sending him early to QPR to gain more experience and now with Getafe , Getafe gives our players what we can't give them .. the time and patience for the transition between Castilla to the first team which the player gain confidence playing Real, Valencia,Villarreal,Seville,Barca without the worry of our fans pressure
I think there is a lot more in Granero than you think but not an early boomer and his position is quite crowded in both Real and the NT team .
There is no doubt Xabi is the brains and heartbeat of the midfield but i think he can slot for him/beside him especially in the game we need possession in , considering the two Diarra's should/will be on their way out i think Jose will replace them with both Granero and Parejo

 

[Trequartista]

beast,wolfe or anyone are those rumors about a possible match between madrid and el zamalek in egypt next june true or what?

 

[El Gato]

http://www.madrid-barcelona.com/9957/El-Madrid-cerrará-la-temporada-en-Egipto/

Don't know whether you should believe it, but I'd say it could be possible since I've read somewhere that Madrid wants to expand their tournee destinations a little bit more than just regular matches in USA, don't remember where exactly though. I think Mourinho has already brought down the idea of playing in China, but Egypt isn't as far away. Zamalek celebrates centenary and the sponsor might do just a thing to bring Madrid to Egypt. Who knows ?

There are also some rumors that Madrid youth team wants to acquire one of Zamalek's youngsters, some Mohammed someone, don't know if they are recent or not.