Robinho

[IrvDizzle]

I see him going to Italy next season ... I mean ... it's the only league where he hasn't worn his welcome out. thank *expletive deleted* that he won't be anywhere near the Camp Nou.

 

[Gnegneri]

Robinho will go back to City or move to a new Sheikh club

I see him going to Italy next season ...

Inter it is! arty00231:


Although, ironically, they have had one Brazilian puppy like that already.

 

[Aryagorn]

You are talking about pre-Citeh Robinho
Robinho is off color for a while now .. probably since he moved to Citeh i haven't seen a decent form from him

Dunga has balls , without form he won't think twice about benching Robinho contrary to those before him he has the balls to do unpopular decisions like excluding the entire Brazilian forward lines and even Dinho .

so your assumption that Robinho has a guaranteed spot is without basis .

as for returning to Spain you mean moving to Barca since apart from Real & Barca no one can afford his salary , i think his lazy character and constant whining is a turn off for Pep and if the Catalan press is true than your two Captains don't want him in the squad as well .

Robinho will go back to City or move to a new Sheikh club

But Dunga doesn't care if the player he wants in his team is playing in Brazil or in Europe, most recent examples being the call-ups for Andre Santos(ahead of Filipe Luis) & Ramires

As for returning to Spain... you never know!! How can you be so sure he won't reduce his wage demands!? After all it's his father who is his agent, who can induce some wisdom into the spoiled little child of his if he wanted to!! Moreover if Dunga explains him he needs to return to Europe to hit his best form he'll definitely follow the advice. Didn't Beckham do some thing similar!?

And when I said he might be signed by us, I didn't exclude the possibility that he could be a politically-influenced signing!! After all in a survey, conducted by the very daily that thought the two captains didn't want him, majority wanted Robinho to be signed as the first and foremost priority!!

 

[blueduck]

You are talking about pre-Citeh Robinho
Robinho is off color for a while now .. probably since he moved to Citeh i haven't seen a decent form from him

Dunga has balls , without form he won't think twice about benching Robinho contrary to those before him he has the balls to do unpopular decisions like excluding the entire Brazilian forward lines and even Dinho .

so your assumption that Robinho has a guaranteed spot is without basis .

as for returning to Spain you mean moving to Barca since apart from Real & Barca no one can afford his salary , i think his lazy character and constant whining is a turn off for Pep and if the Catalan press is true than your two Captains don't want him in the squad as well .

Robinho will go back to City or move to a new Sheikh club

With all due respect, beast, you're talking sh!t.

Robinho was rather good for us last season at home.

You've also been taken in by what the bs media has been shoving down your throat. You've been reading a little too much of Marca.

 

[Metaphysical]

robinho will always have a spot with dunga's brazil because for the first year and a half or so of dunga's reign (when he was still adjusting and figuring stuff out) brazil were shit and it was only robinho's utter awesome that kept the mong in the job. he hasn't forgotten that.

still, I'd watch out for brazil.

all that awesome with a point to prove won't be good for the opponents.

 

[Aryagorn]

robinho will always have a spot with dunga's brazil because for the first year and a half or so of dunga's reign (when he was still adjusting and figuring stuff out) brazil were shit and it was only robinho's utter awesome that kept the mong in the job. he hasn't forgotten that.

That's what I'm trying to emphasize here... It's not about whether Dunga has balls or he's a puss, the mentioned unpopular decisions were with the fan-favorites. And here's this robinho who is more of a personal business for Dunga!!

 

[IrvDizzle]

With all due respect, beast, you're talking sh!t.

Robinho was rather good for us last season at home.

You've also been taken in by what the bs media has been shoving down your throat. You've been reading a little too much of Marca.

football is a 'what have you done for me lately' type thing ... I remember Robinho started off great in his first season. But like Gio said, once he realized that he was going to be alone he checked out. A great player would have taken it on himself, kept giving 100%, and tried to get City in to the top 4 or at least in to the FA Cup Final. But he didn't. He gave up. I realize you have to defend your club, but hang Robinho out to dry. For goodness sakes, he hung your club out to dry.

robinho will always have a spot with dunga's brazil because for the first year and a half or so of dunga's reign (when he was still adjusting and figuring stuff out) brazil were shit and it was only robinho's utter awesome that kept the mong in the job. he hasn't forgotten that.

still, I'd watch out for brazil.

all that awesome with a point to prove won't be good for the opponents.

great points, Meta, esp that last sentence.

 

[Valon]

Ramires is awesome Estel that's why he is in Brazil NT , and Andre Santos was because they didn't have a better LB at the time, Filipe should be their LB now but it's a shame he is injured and will miss WC... although both Ramires and Santos play in Europe now.

 

[Aryagorn]

Ramires is awesome Estel that's why he is in Brazil NT , and Andre Santos was because they didn't have a better LB at the time, Filipe should be their LB now but it's a shame he is injured and will miss WC... although both Ramires and Santos play in Europe now.

All I'm trying to say is they were called when they were still in Brazil... But I have no idea if their eventual entry into Europe has any thing to do with Dunga, logically speaking yes it is!! Then that definitely supports my original point that Robinho would return to Europe!!

 

[Valon]

Maybe so but he's a merc and he will always cause problems in the dressing rooms.

 

[Aryagorn]

Maybe so but he's a merc and he will always cause problems in the dressing rooms.

Never denied that... But never say never

 

[Valon]

He won't change, he'll be like that forever.

 

[Metaphysical]

to be fair to robinho, irv, he didn't truly chuck it in 'til sparky offloaded his mates in the summer and signed a bunch of joyless workhorses, turning the team into a poor man's (lol) chelsea. he was great at the start and the end of last season and some of the stuff him and ireland played was utterly beautiful.

had they kept playing that type of football, arab billionnaires or not, people would have loved them.

 

[IrvDizzle]

point taken, Meta. but I was following him closely in that first season (cuz I had him on my fantasy squad) and after the XMas break his form dipped like post-sciatic Thierry. The summer xfer window failure just re-inforced what Kaka's rejection revealed. Also, I'm sure that Kaka was blatantly truthful with Robinho as to his (Kaka) choice to snub City and wait for Real.

 

[Beast]

But Dunga doesn't care if the player he wants in his team is playing in Brazil or in Europe, most recent examples being the call-ups for Andre Santos(ahead of Filipe Luis) & Ramires

As for returning to Spain... you never know!! How can you be so sure he won't reduce his wage demands!? After all it's his father who is his agent, who can induce some wisdom into the spoiled little child of his if he wanted to!! Moreover if Dunga explains him he needs to return to Europe to hit his best form he'll definitely follow the advice. Didn't Beckham do some thing similar!?

And when I said he might be signed by us, I didn't exclude the possibility that he could be a politically-influenced signing!! After all in a survey, conducted by the very daily that thought the two captains didn't want him, majority wanted Robinho to be signed as the first and foremost priority!!

No one said anything about not picking anyone from the Brazilian league .. i'm saying form is decisive and Dunga isn't stupid to pick someone because he is scoring for fun in the Brazilian league , he has other criteria (see why he picked Adriano over Ronaldo )

I don't see anyone introducing any sort of wisdom , if his father (if he is really his agent ) had any sort of brains he would have told him to prove himself by hard work in Citeh not look for the easy exit and another step back for him

With all due respect, beast, you're talking sh!t.

Robinho was rather good for us last season at home.

You've also been taken in by what the bs media has been shoving down your throat. You've been reading a little too much of Marca.

Do you think Marca is bothered by Robinho ?
they don't even report anything about him .. once you leave Real it's over for you in AS & Marca .. however you can ask the cules about what Sport & EMD write about Robinho since he is/was in their line of interest
I think you have proven beyond any reasonable doubt that you are the one brainwashed by the media...everyone been telling you Robinho will leave and u insisted on living in la la land convincing yourself that he love Citeh and want to stay .

Robinho was good last season ? you mean he was half good since he was total crap away from home (compared to with Real where he showed consistency home & away ) .. it won't be the first time you lived in denial ducky ..

face the facts , he snubbed you for a team in Brazil and your grandiose dreams are unrealistically

That's what I'm trying to emphasize here... It's not about whether Dunga has balls or he's a puss, the mentioned unpopular decisions were with the fan-favorites. And here's this robinho who is more of a personal business for Dunga!!

For Dunga form counts , he isn't bothered by who play where and who did what before .
Robinho position have Pato lined up and if you compare both players form season you'd know Pato will easily be chosen ahead of Robinho
or even new arrivals like Michel Bastos or Hulk

robinho will always have a spot with dunga's brazil because for the first year and a half or so of dunga's reign (when he was still adjusting and figuring stuff out) brazil were shit and it was only robinho's utter awesome that kept the mong in the job. he hasn't forgotten that.

still, I'd watch out for brazil.

all that awesome with a point to prove won't be good for the opponents.

Dunga is a student of Capello , Irv is right about "what you done for me lately " . he is as pragmatic as the worst one of them .. what Robinho did for him early on will mean zero for his selection

P.S it's very funny that cules now acknowledge Robinho form with Brazil during the first years of Dunga.. when he was representing Real u lot failed to give him any credit (old forum shit )