Ronald Koeman

freetocan

Member
If a pool would be organized to see what percentage cowman would obtain if he must stay or not, most probably that he would not get 25-30% on his favour. And that tells everything.
 

snowy

Well-known member
If a pool would be organized to see what percentage cowman would obtain if he must stay or not, most probably that he would not get 25-30% on his favour. And that tells everything.

Too easy. And it would get overcrowded and we'd run out of chlorine.

Better poll would you like to see Koe replaced by so and so coach, the caveat being, said coach should be available and keen to join.

I think someone mentioned the coaches from La Masia and the women's team so they could offer interesting in-house options.

Otherwise, we can always Herv? Fox. Add a dash of cool to the sideline
 

freetocan

Member
I cannot make it clear enough how badly want to see cowman fired. He is a hater from many points of view, just mentioning how he sidelined Riqui Puig for so long. And everybody agree that Puig is so talented and sure a player who should give minutes to prove. In all honesty, I do not see this Moriba better than Puig, he is stronger than Puig but not so technically and overall capable than Puig.
Not mentioning other reasons well known by most Barca funs, this stupid cowman has to disappear. There are options like Xavi, Klopp, Fritz and so on, much better than this clown. He definitely, does not have the quality for a Barca coach. Period.
 

Birdy

Senior Member
Of top5 league we have got the third most goals.

Bayern: 126 goals in 47 matches, 2,68 goals per match

CIty: 117 goals in 50 matches, 2,12 goals per match

Barca: 116 in 58 matches, 2,34 goals per match

Tottenham: 118 in 58, 2

PSG: 115 in 52, 2,21

How about this? xG for and against across the 5 best leagues in Europe
1)
xG for (according to Infogol's model)
Barca: 77.4
Atalanta: 72.5
Lyon: 71.7
City: 71.2
Bayern: 71.0
Juve: 70.9
Inter: 69.3
PSG: 69.1
Liverpool: 65.9
Real: 64.8
Dortmund: 63.4
Chelsea: 61.5
Atletico: 53.0

2)
xG against
Lille: 26.1
Leipzig: 26.4
City: 28.0
Chelsea: 31.3
Monaco: 31.6
Juve: 34.5
Inter: 35.3
Sevilla: 36.8
Bayern: 37.2
Atletico: 38.4
Barca: 40.1
Real: 40.1


Defintely KOEMANOUT
This guy made Barca have the best attack in Europe.
Unacceptable
 

snowy

Well-known member
This X-Men stuff gaining credibility. Matches my eyetest impression

Now if only he'd start Wouzwerine :dembele:, xG for would jump up a good 10 points
 

Bobo32

Senior Member
How about this? xG for and against across the 5 best leagues in Europe
1)
xG for (according to Infogol's model)
Barca: 77.4
Atalanta: 72.5
Lyon: 71.7
City: 71.2
Bayern: 71.0
Juve: 70.9
Inter: 69.3
PSG: 69.1
Liverpool: 65.9
Real: 64.8
Dortmund: 63.4
Chelsea: 61.5
Atletico: 53.0

2)
xG against
Lille: 26.1
Leipzig: 26.4
City: 28.0
Chelsea: 31.3
Monaco: 31.6
Juve: 34.5
Inter: 35.3
Sevilla: 36.8
Bayern: 37.2
Atletico: 38.4
Barca: 40.1
Real: 40.1


Defintely KOEMANOUT
This guy made Barca have the best attack in Europe.
Unacceptable
Could you post Barcelonas xG in the five seasons prior?
 

fergus90

Senior Member
How about this? xG for and against across the 5 best leagues in Europe
1)
xG for (according to Infogol's model)
Barca: 77.4
Atalanta: 72.5
Lyon: 71.7
City: 71.2
Bayern: 71.0
Juve: 70.9
Inter: 69.3
PSG: 69.1
Liverpool: 65.9
Real: 64.8
Dortmund: 63.4
Chelsea: 61.5
Atletico: 53.0

2)
xG against
Lille: 26.1
Leipzig: 26.4
City: 28.0
Chelsea: 31.3
Monaco: 31.6
Juve: 34.5
Inter: 35.3
Sevilla: 36.8
Bayern: 37.2
Atletico: 38.4
Barca: 40.1
Real: 40.1


Defintely KOEMANOUT
This guy made Barca have the best attack in Europe.
Unacceptable

Open top bus parade for the XG treble surely on the cards.
 

Vilarrubi

New member
How about this? xG for and against across the 5 best leagues in Europe
1)
xG for (according to Infogol's model)
Barca: 77.4
Atalanta: 72.5
Lyon: 71.7
City: 71.2
Bayern: 71.0
Juve: 70.9
Inter: 69.3
PSG: 69.1
Liverpool: 65.9
Real: 64.8
Dortmund: 63.4
Chelsea: 61.5
Atletico: 53.0

2)
xG against
Lille: 26.1
Leipzig: 26.4
City: 28.0
Chelsea: 31.3
Monaco: 31.6
Juve: 34.5
Inter: 35.3
Sevilla: 36.8
Bayern: 37.2
Atletico: 38.4
Barca: 40.1
Real: 40.1


Defintely KOEMANOUT
This guy made Barca have the best attack in Europe.
Unacceptable

Fair play to him we are playing better.

But what about mentality in big games? Formations and who he picks? Substitutions? Those are some of the thing’s he’s got wrong this season which stats can’t measure.

Can’t just keep him because we have “highest xG”. All that shows it that the team has great potential and ability to perform well, but doesn’t mean Koeman is the right man. Hopefully another coach could push us to that next level and build on what Koeman has done.
 

SmilerBam

Well-known member
How about this? xG for and against across the 5 best leagues in Europe
1)
xG for (according to Infogol's model)
Barca: 77.4
Atalanta: 72.5
Lyon: 71.7
City: 71.2
Bayern: 71.0
Juve: 70.9
Inter: 69.3
PSG: 69.1
Liverpool: 65.9
Real: 64.8
Dortmund: 63.4
Chelsea: 61.5
Atletico: 53.0

2)
xG against
Lille: 26.1
Leipzig: 26.4
City: 28.0
Chelsea: 31.3
Monaco: 31.6
Juve: 34.5
Inter: 35.3
Sevilla: 36.8
Bayern: 37.2
Atletico: 38.4
Barca: 40.1
Real: 40.1


Defintely KOEMANOUT
This guy made Barca have the best attack in Europe.
Unacceptable

Again this X shit thing. This and VAR are the death of football.
 

fergus90

Senior Member
We may have the best attack in Europe in accordance to xG but let us be serious we are 3rd in the league, worst home record since 2002/03, worst record against top teams since 64/65, 2nd place in Champions League group stage to a dire Juventus, earliest exit in the CL for some time too.

I'm not going to scorn all of Koeman's work as some of it has been very good but we are not as good as that xG model would suggest.
 

Birdy

Senior Member
Fair play to him we are playing better.

But what about mentality in big games? Formations and who he picks? Substitutions? Those are some of the thing’s he’s got wrong this season which stats can’t measure.

Can’t just keep him because we have “highest xG”. All that shows it that the team has great potential and ability to perform well, but doesn’t mean Koeman is the right man. Hopefully another coach could push us to that next level and build on what Koeman has done.

1) Mentality in big games is not where it should be. But is this a problem he created or a problem he inherited and have not solved yet?
2) Subs and game-management is the only thing I agree that Koeman did a bad job thus far. But can't kick him out just because of that, while disregarding the rest.
Subs and game-management is only a cherry on the top. The serious work is done elsewhere.
If only subs and game-management is the quality we look for in a coach, then Zidane is the best coach out there. LOL

3) Your bolded claim is so wrong...
Sooner or late the xG always converges with G.
It's not a parallel reality that some people here think it is.
If you create enough good chances, then your job as a coach is done. You cannot instruct a player how to put the ball in the net when he is 1-1 with the goalie.
He and Schreuder are responsible for this transformation. Credit where it's due..
It's actually the exact opposite of what you say:
Team's ability to perform well is down to the coach, not to the players individually
team's inability to finish off chances is not down to the coach, but to the players individually
 
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