Birdy
Senior Member
Nah, more like:
There is a minimal threshold of competitiveness from where promise starts to count, and below which it does not
Xavi is very far from even scratching that level
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Nah, more like:
There is a minimal threshold of competitiveness from where promise starts to count, and below which it does not
Xavi is very far from even scratching that level
Barcilliant
Senior Member
We save time. We can't waste any more time in this "rebuild". Another season wasted under Koeman is another season trying to get back on track. If a Klopp, Tuchel or Pep had teething problems you would give them time because they are proven. Koeman is not. He's experienced and hasn't done anything.
And Xavi is NOT the right choice. He doent even want to prove himself with the B team. He wants to go straight from Qatar to managing the first team.
It's possible he might be a success but I doubt it.
People forget Pep had a fantastic squad with guys like Xavi, Iniesta and most importantly Messi coming into their prime. Not to mention the backline with Alves, Puyol and Abidal.
The squad is lame compared to what Pep inherited.
serghei
Senior Member
The expectations will be much lower, precisely because of the difference in quality. Nobody will expect him to surpass or even get very close to the best team ever. A top 4 side in 2-3 years of hard work is achievable.
Improving this team gradually in a medium period will not be THAT hard for a competent manager, if we look at how mismanaged we've been in the last years.
I don't see any other options other than Xavi or Ten Hag, both who are promising propositions for my liking.
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Horatio
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It will be. We are falling behind to other clubs because of the club culture and philosophy. Hard for any coach to change that.
serghei
Senior Member
Misunderstood club culture and philosophy, implemented by incompetents like Bartomeu.
soul24rage
Senior Member
If there were a competent manager without a club right now, then I agree to just sack Koeman, but there is no manager like that.
Barcilliant
Senior Member
If you want to look at total football look at Bayern. This club is still stuck in the past. The club culture is a big problem. Not enough emphasis on defense and physicality.
Horatio
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Yep, what I meant. Culture is too relaxed and hard to convince players otherwise when they have been so used to it. [MENTION=15262]serghei[/MENTION]
serghei
Senior Member
Since when is this club "culture" a thing? Let's go back. Basically, this is when some legends (the weakest of the bunch mentally, the most laid-back types) became amigos and started to command the club instead of that pussy Bartomeu.
Not long ago, Barca had players like Eto'o, Abidal, Puyol, Alves, Toure, Pedro, Mascherano. Strong, fast, athletic players, hardworking. Dependable guys, you could count on to show up and fight in tough moments. All those were gone in various stages, amigos remained, add in that joke president and his cohort of obedient average managers, and shit hit the fan, creating the current mess.
The club culture got toxic in recent years, especially since the last CL win, 2015.
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Total-Football
Senior Member
Link to gofundme page?
ZenI
Professor Balthazar
I would definitively fund a Koeman sacking at this point.
FinBarcelonafan
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Bartomeu screwed in so many ways it's a joke. He should have never done this deal with Koeman.
Laporta never accepted Koeman.
Laporta never accepted Koeman.
iniestaGOAT
Senior Member
Koeman is an average Premier league team manager. Anybody is better than koeman.
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