Samuel Umtiti

[RMU ReBorn]

varane >Umtiti . Sam might or might not become better . But it's not even a debate now. 4 Cl's , a world cup , a league title and was decisive as well

 

[GOAT_SUAREZ]

varane >Umtiti . Sam might or might not become better . But it's not even a debate now. 4 Cl's , a world cup , a league title and was decisive as well

^this. Sam has a double and now the WC. Not much compared to Varane

 

[Joan]

Judging young player based on trophies is pointless. Varane has been with the best club in the world since 2011., Umtiti been with us for 2 seasons. Going by trophies won, Varane is better than many all-time greats.

Not saying he isn't better than Sam, but parameters are wrong.

 

[jamrock]

Varane is better in almost everything than Umtiti, he is a bit inconsistent but so it Umtiti

Really at everything

 

[RMU ReBorn]

Judging young player based on trophies is pointless. Varane has been with the best club in the world since 2011., Umtiti been with us for 2 seasons. Going by trophies won, Varane is better than many all-time greats.

Not saying he isn't better than Sam, but parameters are wrong.

Varane wasn't a passenger in that Rm squad . I am not judging him based on trophys . He was crucial in all those title wins. with Ramos and his madness he brought in that sense of calmness needed in big games . I have seen him defend like crazy in big matches . And it's not even a debate on who has been the best defender in this world cup

 

[jamrock]

I drive a very nice car, you know what that means I'm better than everyone who doesn't.

Or am I just more successful

Or do some people not understand the difference

 

[Joan]

Varane wasn't a passenger in that Rm squad . I am not judging him based on trophys . He was crucial in all those title wins. with Ramos and his madness he brought in that sense of calmness needed in big games . I have seen him defend like crazy in big matches . And it's not even a debate on who has been the best defender in this world cup

Never said he was a passanger. Heck, neither did I claim he's not a better defender (although I believe it).

You come here, say 'It's not even debatable' and count his trophies.

It's not a debate who was the best defender this WC.

 

[RMU ReBorn]

Never said he was a passanger. Heck, neither did I claim he's not a better defender (although I believe it).

You come here, say 'It's not even debatable' and count his trophies.

It's not a debate who was the best defender this WC.

Na i didn't meant to compare them with number of Cl wins . what i meant was Varane was crucial in those Cl wins which makes him undisputed no 1 in that french team . Any way it's my mistake that i didn't conveyed it properly . Sorry for my English .

 

[xXKonan]

Using trophies as some sort of benchmark to prove one player is better than the other is laughable.

Pinto won pretty much everything there is to win at a club level which includes a treble. does that mean he's a better Goalkeeper than the likes of David De Gea?

 

[Joan]

Na i didn't meant to compare them with number of Cl wins . what i meant was Varane was crucial in those Cl wins which makes him undisputed no 1 in that french team . Any way it's my mistake that i didn't conveyed it properly . Sorry for my English .

He is, no doubt, an undisputed number one this tournament.

I was arguing my impressions. Sorry if sounded harsh at times.

 

[Joan]

Using trophies as some sort of benchmark to prove one player is better than the other is laughable.

Pinto won pretty much everything there is to win at a club level which includes a treble. does that mean he's a better Goalkeeper than the likes of David De Gea?

Going by the WC performances... it's not impossible.

but agree with your point

 

[RMU ReBorn]

Using trophies as some sort of benchmark to prove one player is better than the other is laughable.

Pinto won pretty much everything there is to win at a club level which includes a treble. does that mean he's a better Goalkeeper than the likes of David De Gea?

Pinto was a bench plauer . Varane was their fucking starter at 22

 

[xXKonan]

Going by the WC performances... it's not impossible.

but agree with your point

Pinto was no doubt a good GK during his prime, hell he even won the Zamora in 2006 with Celta. But in terms of pure talent? it's not even a contest between the two despite De Gea's horrible WC.

 

[Joan]

Pinto was no doubt a good GK during his prime, hell he even won the Zamora in 2006 with Celta. But in terms of pure talent? it's not even a contest between the two despite De Gea's horrible WC.

Of course it's not. It was a joke.

 

[xXKonan]

Varane-Umtiti is the new Pique-Ramos, just without the shitty banter and drama.