50m is a joke, and we shouldn't even consider that. I get if we would want to sell him for 80m, but if he recovers 100% he will be a top 5 CB player and also better than Lenglet. And probably be worth 100-120m in this market. Also i do think he will be a better match up for de ligt.
Samuel Umtiti
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MTL_Barca
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I could see us think about the possibility of selling him. We are after De Ligt, not because we need a CB but because we don't want to miss out on him as a Pique successor. But then we have 4 CBs that all want to play.
And if it's between Umtiti and Lenglet we would most likely sell Umtiti first because of health concerns and higher salary.
Problem with this is that De Ligt + Pique doesn't look like the best duo, so we would only have one agile/faster CB left with Lenglet for now. We also have Todibo but i didn't see much of him so idk if he could take that spot.
I don't necessarily think we'll sell him, but i guess it makes sense to think about it if a good offer comes in. But 50M doesn't sound that fantastic.
And if it's between Umtiti and Lenglet we would most likely sell Umtiti first because of health concerns and higher salary.
Problem with this is that De Ligt + Pique doesn't look like the best duo, so we would only have one agile/faster CB left with Lenglet for now. We also have Todibo but i didn't see much of him so idk if he could take that spot.
I don't necessarily think we'll sell him, but i guess it makes sense to think about it if a good offer comes in. But 50M doesn't sound that fantastic.
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It makes sense, but the numbers figured in media dont. 60m is the highest i have read, and thats just too low all considered. Well, we dont actually know the extend of his knee problems, but lets take this factor out of the equation for now.
Another thing is that Lenglet may be just as good a player as Umiti when playing alongside Pique, but I still have my doubts if he would perform as well with a young de ligt at his side. Umtiti as a player who just like pique brings x-factor, much needed wildness and good ball-movement up the field and low killers passes to midfield and attack, and can open a whole match, Lenglet doesnt have any of that besides some few high long balls which i personally dont rate highly. Also he is a strong duel player, and before injury i think he was also pacier. He is special. Lenglet is however a safe player, not a special talent, a type like him can be just as good as Umtiti as you can see this season, but thats only if the circumstances do suit him, if they dont, he will still bring good performances, but he will never be a decive factor, never be a player who will turn matches around - on neither side of the pitch. I do rate Lenglet highly nevertheless but Umtiti is a gem and a player who every big club needs, Lenglet is a fill-in player. To come back to the de ligt partnership, there is no doubt in my mind that Umtiti could match up with any player including de ligt, because he will bring it all, while the other defender can do the basic stuff.
I actually think that Umtiti and Lenget also would make a good duo besides both of them being lefties, so question is if one or the other could get accustomed to playing on the right.
But yes, even if Umtiti would be a injury-prone player in future, i would still prefer him here than lets say 50m. Because that means he would be all-right being 3rd choice behind De ligt and lenglet, and we would have three wc-cbs.
We dont know how Lenglet will match up with de Ligt - but we do more or less know that Umtiti will be good with any defender at his side. Lenglet is for me a player who plays it safe, positions himself well but doesnt bring anything extraordinary
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George_Costanza
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Umtiti's condition is a mystery so far, so many conflicting reports.
If the club is looking to offload him then they know something we don't know and they don't want the information to go public for obvious reasons.
Not sure about that. It could really just be to get some cash for ST+ligt. But that there is something up with titis knee is certain,
Luftstalag14
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If we sign De Ligt and sell Umtiti, next season's CB pairing would be Pique and Lenglet with De Ligt being the third CB? We still need a fourth one in case of injuries.
And when Pique retires we will buy one more CB?
And when Pique retires we will buy one more CB?
Givenchy
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I think we'll see De Ligt-Lenglet alot next season as we phase Pique out.. well i would think that if we had a manager with sense. Lenglet will sit out for De Ligt though if Pique has to start - not that i agree with it but De Ligt costs more so..
its foolish to sell Umtiti imo especially at 50mil, we can give him another year to regain his form/fitness 100% and then sell for 80mil+ next summer if he cant get into the team but ppl have a short memory it seems, big Sam was the best CB in the world.
No no no. Barto if you sell him for less than 80m
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No, it would be Lenglet (todibo/?) - pique (ligt)
De ligt is NOT better than either Lenglet pr Titi. And is 3rd choice as he should be. But yes, guess that means we would need another CB, and here I actually would be in favor just to extend Vermaelens contract with another year and a little pay cut.
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No, it would be Lenglet (todibo/?) - pique (ligt)
De ligt is NOT better than either Lenglet pr Titi. And is 3rd choice as he should be. But yes, guess that means we would need another CB, and here I actually would be in favor just to extend Vermaelens contract with another year and a little pay cut.
Dont think thats true. Pique will still be our main man, and play 70% while ligt gets 30%. The season after that 65/35. And I think thats also how it should be. Pique is the leader on the pitch this season and he will probably be that till he retires here in 2 seasons. I have The feeling that Pique will continue to be great, and our team needs a leader on the pitch. De ligt has already played a lot for his age, and I think a barrier to break through and a role model leader, level and a bit style wise would be good for him. He apparebtly is also ready to be second rcb (3. In all) choice.( Media.)
All this IF titi gets sold.
I dont think anyone in this case cares about the price. De ligt is still not ready for Barca-level, and lenglet is the better player right now.
Arizona Scott
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Good post, I like the plan. And honestly Pique this year has been world class, looked the part of a top 5 CB. Of course those years are numbered.
If we can get 60-70K, I say sell.
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