CatalinR10
Senior Member
of course , but that doesn't change that Alba was the best Lb untill that moment.
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of course , but that doesn't change that Alba was the best Lb untill that moment.
Messigician
Senior Member
Perhaps, but Alba is 30 he's only going to get worse. He's always had an inconsistency about him which will show itself more and more with age
jairzinho
Senior Member
That’s why Firpo has to be a priority.
Messigician
Senior Member
Why not Cucurella? Performed very well against Real Madrid
jairzinho
Senior Member
Cucurella is off to Getafe on loan but Firpo is already a better than him in my opinion.
CatalinR10
Senior Member
you honestly want cucurella to be in our team as future starter ?
will always ask myself why some people are ok with mediocrity.
I cant blame them when you are playing with players like rakitic roberto etc. since years. At some point you are getting used to mediocrity.
Messigician
Senior Member
Think Cucu has a higher ceiling than Firpo if I had to be honest
raedkuwait
Senior Member
Elite keeper!? Where are those impossible saves
In knock out games and big games that makes you
Go wow no way other goal keeper would have saved
That!! He is no way in the top 3 goal keeper
How could you even think that when he recieved
All those goals in such big games!?
Devils
Senior Member
Let's be real, when you look at the performances of the the likes of Allisson and Keylor Navas for Liverpool and Real in the CL over the past few years, they put on heroic performances that made them widely receive acclaim as key contributors to their team's CL winning campaigns.
MAtS hasn't put on performances anywhere near those levels for us since he was given the #1.
MAtS hasn't put on performances anywhere near those levels for us since he was given the #1.
jairzinho
Senior Member
Bro. MATS is an elite keeper. Is he undisputed best in the world? Obviously not. But the dude is certainly top 3 and in that elite bracket of the top 5 for sure. What criteria are you using to determine who is an elite GK and who is not ? CL and other big game saves?
The best for me right now would be Allisson Becker and even he conceded some really dumb goals last season and in big games. Dude had some really bad howlers against Spurs, Man Utd and even that brain fart against Leicester but in general he was clutch especially in the CL knockout rounds and Copa America. That's why i think he's #1.
But both MATS and Oblak were clutch over the course of the season too but in the CL they really couldn't do much in the end as their teams pretty much collapsed around them. But that doesn't mean these guys aren't elite IMO. If you look at the body of work they put in last season, especially MATS, no way you could sit there and tell me he isn't top 3. Who else is top 3? Navas?. Lol.
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Devils
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I wouldn't compare MAtS with Alisson or Oblak, both of whom are miles above MAtS, especially Alisson who is by far the best keeper in the world. The gap between Alisson and the rest is massive. I'd also have no problem putting Ederson and Neuer (when fit) ahead of him too.
We also have to face the fact that Keylor won 3 CL titles with Real Madrid as starting keeper and was a vital part of their 3peat winning side. That's greater than anything we've achieved with MAtS and likely ever will.
MAtS is in the same category as Lloris or Courtois. Decent keeper, but big flaws to his game.
At the end of the day, MAtS just isn't a very good shot stopper.
We also have to face the fact that Keylor won 3 CL titles with Real Madrid as starting keeper and was a vital part of their 3peat winning side. That's greater than anything we've achieved with MAtS and likely ever will.
MAtS is in the same category as Lloris or Courtois. Decent keeper, but big flaws to his game.
At the end of the day, MAtS just isn't a very good shot stopper.
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Devils
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The conclusion I came to in regards to him wasn't based off of nothing.
Here is my analysis of him the CL 'humiliations' we've had over the past 3 years:
http://www.barcaforum.com/showthread.php/13928-Jasper-Cillessen?p=2078157&viewfull=1#post2078157
Based on my analysis, I concluded that 50% of the goals that MAtS conceded would have been stopped by an elite shot stopper.
For me in the CL he's been poor-mediocre over the past 3 years. Certainly not elite and nowhere near the world's best.
Let's also not pretend like his form in Liga and CDR invalidate these performances. Suarez scores a bunch in Liga and CDR but is absolute trash in the CL and that disqualifies him from being considered one of the best strikers in the word. MAtS must be judged in the same standard.
EdmondDantes
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Valverde: “The idea is to play Sergio Roberto in the midfield this season, and use Semedo & Wague as Right-backs.”
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Pretty much confirmed what MD reported a few weeks back.
I don't see how that's feasible, especially with Rakitic still here.
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Glad for Wague & Semedo though.
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Pretty much confirmed what MD reported a few weeks back.
I don't see how that's feasible, especially with Rakitic still here.
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Glad for Wague & Semedo though.
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