Bobo32
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Didn't even bother to pick up Felix run..
Yeah, neither did Mingueza, who was the one who (a bit lazily) pressed.
Is it Araujo who press the passer and let's himself get nutmegged?
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Yeah, neither did Mingueza, who was the one who (a bit lazily) pressed.
Is it Araujo who press the passer and let's himself get nutmegged?
I thought Araujo made loads of worrying mistakes tbh
Short memory syndrome
You realise he was Spains best player ( two consecutive MoM awards) in the Euros a few months ago
JamDav1982
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No he wasnt... Pedri was their best player and Spains midfield was shit defensively when Busi came into it despite rarely being pressured.
Busquets flatters to deceive and some folk will purr when teams sit off and he gets room to pass in middle of park.
One of those games he got MOTM was Croatia. They sat off all game and gave him space.. until the dying minutes when two goals behind and had to throw caution to wind and press Spain and get men forward. The result was two goals. Busquets looking clueless defensively and taken off not long into extra time to avoid more Croatia goals.
The game v Switzerland was the same. They had started to pressure Spain and were getting upper hand with Busi looking clueless until a red card.
Bobo32
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It is true though that Busquets really needs a good structure around him to really shine, as he did just a few months ago in the euros, yes.
He is still the best player of Barcelona, and he used to be the second best after Messi for many years, under many different coaches and systems.
He isn't a player who follows every one-two into large spaces, but take the gif that was posted above: he got into a 2v1 with Mingueza, and wanted Mingueza to either press Felix inwards or to force a move from Felix so that he could collect the ball - instead Mingeuza took a step backwards and left the corridor on the outside open, so that Suarez (?) could get the ball, but in another 1v2 and with his back towards the goal. Araujo let him turn and pass through him, and I guess either Busquets or Mingueza could've sprinted back to catch Felix there, but it's not really where the fault is. Dest is too late on the other side too btw,
He is still the best player of Barcelona, and he used to be the second best after Messi for many years, under many different coaches and systems.
He isn't a player who follows every one-two into large spaces, but take the gif that was posted above: he got into a 2v1 with Mingueza, and wanted Mingueza to either press Felix inwards or to force a move from Felix so that he could collect the ball - instead Mingeuza took a step backwards and left the corridor on the outside open, so that Suarez (?) could get the ball, but in another 1v2 and with his back towards the goal. Araujo let him turn and pass through him, and I guess either Busquets or Mingueza could've sprinted back to catch Felix there, but it's not really where the fault is. Dest is too late on the other side too btw,
Raketa10
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He was nowhere near the best. He was horrible in 80% or 90% of games during the last two seasons. It's actually sad to watch him and Pique playing like shit week in week out. True legends know when is time to quit but those two just don't have one bit of self criticism. If they continue playing for Barca next season they will completely ruin their legacy. Alba is a bit younger but he is also in that category. He probably has one more season left in him. This is all Barto's fault. Players who are over 32 should never have more than 1 or 2 seasons left in their contract.
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Bobo32
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Yeah this is the way for a captain of a struggling team: just leave the ship: some anonymous people on the internet call you a turtle and useless, every manager you ever played under wanted you on the pitch, but no you were horrible in 90% of games according to Raketa10 so you should just say to the manager: "No I do not want to play, you are wrong, find someone in Barcelona B who is much better than me".
What a useless person he is for not doing that!
JamDav1982
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He is the worst DM will see in any top league.
Atrocious positioning and never defends the back four, on the ball he slows game down and is shit scared of pressure so tries to win fouls too often.
Not tracking that run by Felix is poor but just as bad is him constantly being pulled into those areas and away from where a DM should be to protect the back four.
There was zero need for him to close out to Felix when Mingueza there. The guy is a liability every game. Every time.
Abysmal player. He is like an old man that used to be good at Futsal.
Atrocious positioning and never defends the back four, on the ball he slows game down and is shit scared of pressure so tries to win fouls too often.
Not tracking that run by Felix is poor but just as bad is him constantly being pulled into those areas and away from where a DM should be to protect the back four.
There was zero need for him to close out to Felix when Mingueza there. The guy is a liability every game. Every time.
Abysmal player. He is like an old man that used to be good at Futsal.
Busquets imo should be a tactical option on the bench or starting against a team that will sit back. Teams that will sit back will be ~30% of la liga maybe? Then there's the option on the bench for a bit more passing stability in the middle.
That's a good role to have at his age, no chance should he be captain and starting every game for the hell of it.
It looks like we're going to have a shit season, Busquets playing or not isn't going to change that. When Pedri is fit and if Koeman is still here he must start looking at Frenkie, Pedri and one other as a midfield 3. At this point I'd take those two and Puig purely based on midfield energy whilst still having necessary technical skills.
That's a good role to have at his age, no chance should he be captain and starting every game for the hell of it.
It looks like we're going to have a shit season, Busquets playing or not isn't going to change that. When Pedri is fit and if Koeman is still here he must start looking at Frenkie, Pedri and one other as a midfield 3. At this point I'd take those two and Puig purely based on midfield energy whilst still having necessary technical skills.
Raketa10
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Some people on internet? Are you blind? He should quit because he is nowhere near the required level. He was done 2 seasons ago, this is not even debatable. According to you he should play because he is a captain?
In addition, he is also a horrible captain. Are Xavi and Iniesta idiots for leaving in time? How should young players develop if he is entitled to play every single game regardless of his performances? Unbelievable things. Just look at the intensity of Modric who is 3 years older than this turtle and than tell me if Busi should start for any half serious team these days. If the answer is yes than I am probably blind.
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Bobo32
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Some people on internet? Are you blind? He was done 2 seasons ago, this is not even debatable. According to you he should play because he is a captain?
Koeman and Enrique are blind too then. Well Koeman may very well be, but...
"this is not even debatable" what a shit thing to say! You need to go and debate Koeman or Enrique.
If Xavi and Iniesta had stayed for a couple of more years, Barcelona would be better off, but it was their decisions. They both left when the club was competitive and their status in the team wasn't as high as Busquets now.
Busquets should play because he is under contract and the coach wants him to play. He should do his best for the length of his contract, and if another club wants him then he should make a decision together with the club. He should not go on strike because of the whims of a forum user.
JamDav1982
Senior Member
Bobo backing Koeman as if cant be 'blind'.
Too easy... apply that to wee Riqui then if coaches can never be wrong.
Busquets is completely done and has been for years. Shite in every CL pumping and every thrashing as completely neglects the role of a DM time after time.
Worst DM in any top league. Has been fucking awful for Spain in major tournaments for years bar couple games this last tournament where still got exposed too often.
Too easy... apply that to wee Riqui then if coaches can never be wrong.
Busquets is completely done and has been for years. Shite in every CL pumping and every thrashing as completely neglects the role of a DM time after time.
Worst DM in any top league. Has been fucking awful for Spain in major tournaments for years bar couple games this last tournament where still got exposed too often.
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