Sergio Ramos

El Gato

El Gato

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Morten said:
So...what do we do when Ramos retire?
Clearly, our other CBs have no concept of organizing the defense.
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We move on. In fact, the sooner we do that, the better. Voluntary rotation of Ramos out of the squad is necessary for damage control. Varane has been 1st choice in France ever since his debut and is the first name on the sheet. As long as Ramos plays every game, there's no chance of turning this around.
 
Andresito

Andresito

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Birdy said:
Leader and had amazing qualities, BUT

He is a huge cunt.
And very dirty player.
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Could be why he's a good leader. You love a fighter beside you who's ruthless against the opponents as it forces everyone else to go up a level or two.
Suarez and Vidal were those type of players. But unfortunately their overall footballing ability is way past it, so they do more harm than good at this point.
 
malvolio

malvolio

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messi would have benefited greatly from having ramos as a captain in his teams. would have enabled the little guy to do his thing and let ramos handle the leadership part and dirty work.

at least 2-3 of those CL humiliations in the CL would have been avoided.

otherwise, i find ramos a bit overrated on the defensive side. but we don't need prime nesta and cannavaro here with the attacking players we had. you need mental strength and leadership in key moments, like 2-3 games in a season for barcelona.
 
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Fati_Future_BallonDor

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malvolio said:
messi would have benefited greatly from having ramos as a captain in his teams. would have enabled the little guy to do his thing and let ramos handle the leadership part and dirty work.

at least 2-3 of those CL humiliations in the CL would have been avoided.

otherwise, i find ramos a bit overrated on the defensive side. but we don't need prime nesta and cannavaro here with the attacking players we had. you need mental strength and leadership in key moments, like 2-3 games in a season for barcelona.
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+1

I dont think we would have been go out with Ramos against Roma and Liverpool. He has won 4 CL's and you still see the hunger in his eyes.
 
serghei

serghei

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Fati_Future_BallonDor said:
+1

I dont think we would have been go out with Ramos against Roma and Liverpool. He has won 4 CL's and you still see the hunger in his eyes.
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Any leader or clutch player would've helped immensely. Xavi, Puyol, Sergio Ramos, Ronaldo, Neuer, Oblak, any player with things such as great organizational skills, leadership, clutch goals, or clutch keeper saves would've helped and probably stopped that disaster either by not conceding as many cheap goals or by scoring 1-2 goals that would've sealed the tie. Or both.

We lacked that Alpha mentality in every compartment, so we didn't have anything to either block Liverpool or punish them on the counters. Didn't have any clutch attacker, any midfield great, any defensive beast. Only one who sort got close to that profile was past it Vidal, but except work rate, he was too over the hill to provide much else.

Cristano Ronaldo scores 1-2 goals with the chances we had. Not even kidding. A defensive leader never goes to sleep at corners or allows free headers near the 6m box.
 
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Morten

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serghei said:
Any leader or clutch player would've helped. Xavi, Puyol, Sergio Ramos, Ronaldo, any player with things such as great organizational skills, leadership, clutch goals would've helped and probably stopped that disaster either by not conceding as many cheap goals or by scoring 1-2 goals that would've sealed the tie. Or both.

We lacked that Alpha mentality. Only one was past it Vidal, but except work rate, he was too past it to provide much else.
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Vidal? The guy with a grand total of zero CL-trophies to his name?
 
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