Ramos for sure is a top 5 defender.. i put him higher than volleyball Thiago Silva and many others.. frankly he must be there in the top 3 defenders in the world.. but i agree with the rest of your post.. it will be downhill from that point onward and being in this position 10 years ago i can see what will happen again.. people underrate leadership skills but it's paramount and there is more than dozen stories in recent years of teams falling apart after the leaders has gone like Milan and others
Glad to see you here dearBeast! I am so glad to see you posting here again. As you know I'm a cule but I greatly respect your football knowledge and commitment to your team. I have nothing to add except that I agree with you.
And because I am a cule, I do hope Ramos leaves!
and thanks for your nice words... and i hope Ramos stays although it feels the damage is done already
Thanks man
I have no clue i left there due to work schedule as i didn't have enough time to be available all the time & i guess the rest of the guys had the same issue... makes you appreciate the time & effort Bojan puts on here
Thanks man
From my point of view there isn't much stars /Galactico to buy... i'm one of those who don't think Pogba is worth that money.. very good midfielder but not a 100 Mil player
We are coming to a period where the superstars are rare and you can count them on one finger so unlike the early millennium there isn't much to chose from and many of them will not improve the team fortunes .. whether it's Aguero who usually spend 2-3 month out or Reus who had a really bad season and i've seen several games especially vs Bayern where he didn't have any impact or Pogba who would bring with him excess baggage and a lot of problems through his infamous agent Mino Riaola who last i've checked is person non-grata in the Bernabeu to the extent that through a medium Pogba was informed that RM would only consider him if he ditch Mino who already destroyed two of his agents (Ibra & Super Mario ) future in bigger teams .
We have to consider 3 things before we go into the transfer market
1- the decrease in revenue through the collective TV bargaining which means Both Barca & Real will have less income when this comes into effect in a year
2- the amount of Spanish/Home grown players required in the CL roaster as well as RM representation in the Spanish NT (matter of pride )
3- Benitez (like Capello ) prefer to have one of his own on the pitch in the team.. at least for a year..
So when you lose Iker and possibly Ramos you are left with just Carvajal and Isco
That's why De Gea is important.. for a long time the NT had there no 1 from RM and they like to keep it that way for now.. plus Iker issue is becoming a distraction between idiot's who attack him & those who support him.. yes Iker is not the same as before .. he is not the St. Iker by his own standards but he isn't as bad as we make him so the best thing is to start fresh which leaves a small amount of 15 Million Euro's which is Iker last 2 years in contract which we usually give to departing legends as a thank you gift like we did with Raul .. i think De Gea so far is certain whether United be reasonable and send him away for a fair price or hold on for a year and eventually it means Iker will stay for an extra year with Navas & De Gea comes for free next summer.. this is a done deal
Aguero : all depend on Benzema leaving or accommodating CR position which is becoming a problem , CR lost his pace due to his constant knee issues so as we saw last year he can't outrun anyone anymore.. but he is the ultimate poacher so would you sacrifice Benzema the ever giving forward and another CR close buddy who never shy of passing the goal scoring chance to CR for someone who would love to score a bundle of his own ? i doubt it
.. unless we managed to put CR where we want to which is to push him away which is planned for next summer or if more development comes in as in another anger tantrum as he is losing all his supporters (Carlo/Ramos etc and before them was Di Maria ) .. CR will be hard to replace in terms of goals but we all know he can't play with his back to the goal so he is a problem playing as a lone striker..
And what if Rafa wants a different setup? .. selling CR is what he should do it will free Bale and the club made it clear that the future lies with Bale not CR ( you can guess how pissed off he must feel even with the press suggesting that wide open... it's Bale now who Rafa will switch the team to get the best of him ) ..
Reus form makes him doubtful plus where will you put him ? even with Benzema rumored to be taking the no 10 role you have Bale as LW , James RW & Benz as AM... we all know Rafa don't switch the 4-2-3-1 formation at all
I think apart from Danilo which is done & De Gea (or we keep the same 2 excellent keepers for a year ) the rest will all rely on what will happen this summer with Cristiano in particular .. forget all the rest it's CR future that can dictate what will do in the market ..
Apart from that you have already 5 players that can easily find themselves first team players...
1- Danilo (sure )
2- denis cheryshev had a very good season with Villareal and back from loan and if Rafa will keep Jese as announced he will need a back winger for Bale/Ronaldo to stay although Denis remains the most likely departure
3- Casemiro .. i believe will be the no 1 sub for Modric/Kroos this year.. i watched him with Porto and he had a stellar season .. watch this breakthrough season for him with Real
4- Marco Asensio , we signed him after a big hunt last year and we have up to 10 teams offering to take him on loan.. the highly rated ex-Mallorca star could be a great addition to the first team . he takes home 3.9 Million a year which is not peanuts for a 19 year old so Real will sure use him
5- Odegaard... best if he is loaned out for a season and the club refused the Celtic request as they want him to be loaned in Spain (probably to our buddies in Betis )
so we can end up keeping all those including Coentrao... and Casemiro already replaced Sami & Danilo for the departing Arbeloa ...
as CR will move as a CF , Marco Asensio /Denis Cheryshev will be the sub wingers...
Just wait for the CR news because if it happens this season it will have a domino effect on the entire team than we can discuss Aguero/Reus & most importantly Morata
sorry for the long post
Thanks man
From my point of view there isn't much stars /Galactico to buy... i'm one of those who don't think Pogba is worth that money.. very good midfielder but not a 100 Mil player
We are coming to a period where the superstars are rare and you can count them on one finger so unlike the early millennium there isn't much to chose from and many of them will not improve the team fortunes .. whether it's Aguero who usually spend 2-3 month out or Reus who had a really bad season and i've seen several games especially vs Bayern where he didn't have any impact or Pogba who would bring with him excess baggage and a lot of problems through his infamous agent Mino Riaola who last i've checked is person non-grata in the Bernabeu to the extent that through a medium Pogba was informed that RM would only consider him if he ditch Mino who already destroyed two of his agents (Ibra & Super Mario ) future in bigger teams .
We have to consider 3 things before we go into the transfer market
1- the decrease in revenue through the collective TV bargaining which means Both Barca & Real will have less income when this comes into effect in a year
2- the amount of Spanish/Home grown players required in the CL roaster as well as RM representation in the Spanish NT (matter of pride )
3- Benitez (like Capello ) prefer to have one of his own on the pitch in the team.. at least for a year..
So when you lose Iker and possibly Ramos you are left with just Carvajal and Isco
That's why De Gea is important.. for a long time the NT had there no 1 from RM and they like to keep it that way for now.. plus Iker issue is becoming a distraction between idiot's who attack him & those who support him.. yes Iker is not the same as before .. he is not the St. Iker by his own standards but he isn't as bad as we make him so the best thing is to start fresh which leaves a small amount of 15 Million Euro's which is Iker last 2 years in contract which we usually give to departing legends as a thank you gift like we did with Raul .. i think De Gea so far is certain whether United be reasonable and send him away for a fair price or hold on for a year and eventually it means Iker will stay for an extra year with Navas & De Gea comes for free next summer.. this is a done deal
Aguero : all depend on Benzema leaving or accommodating CR position which is becoming a problem , CR lost his pace due to his constant knee issues so as we saw last year he can't outrun anyone anymore.. but he is the ultimate poacher so would you sacrifice Benzema the ever giving forward and another CR close buddy who never shy of passing the goal scoring chance to CR for someone who would love to score a bundle of his own ? i doubt it
.. unless we managed to put CR where we want to which is to push him away which is planned for next summer or if more development comes in as in another anger tantrum as he is losing all his supporters (Carlo/Ramos etc and before them was Di Maria ) .. CR will be hard to replace in terms of goals but we all know he can't play with his back to the goal so he is a problem playing as a lone striker..
And what if Rafa wants a different setup? .. selling CR is what he should do it will free Bale and the club made it clear that the future lies with Bale not CR ( you can guess how pissed off he must feel even with the press suggesting that wide open... it's Bale now who Rafa will switch the team to get the best of him ) ..
Reus form makes him doubtful plus where will you put him ? even with Benzema rumored to be taking the no 10 role you have Bale as LW , James RW & Benz as AM... we all know Rafa don't switch the 4-2-3-1 formation at all
I think apart from Danilo which is done & De Gea (or we keep the same 2 excellent keepers for a year ) the rest will all rely on what will happen this summer with Cristiano in particular .. forget all the rest it's CR future that can dictate what will do in the market ..
Apart from that you have already 5 players that can easily find themselves first team players...
1- Danilo (sure )
2- denis cheryshev had a very good season with Villareal and back from loan and if Rafa will keep Jese as announced he will need a back winger for Bale/Ronaldo to stay although Denis remains the most likely departure
3- Casemiro .. i believe will be the no 1 sub for Modric/Kroos this year.. i watched him with Porto and he had a stellar season .. watch this breakthrough season for him with Real
4- Marco Asensio , we signed him after a big hunt last year and we have up to 10 teams offering to take him on loan.. the highly rated ex-Mallorca star could be a great addition to the first team . he takes home 3.9 Million a year which is not peanuts for a 19 year old so Real will sure use him
5- Odegaard... best if he is loaned out for a season and the club refused the Celtic request as they want him to be loaned in Spain (probably to our buddies in Betis )
so we can end up keeping all those including Coentrao... and Casemiro already replaced Sami & Danilo for the departing Arbeloa ...
as CR will move as a CF , Marco Asensio /Denis Cheryshev will be the sub wingers...
Just wait for the CR news because if it happens this season it will have a domino effect on the entire team than we can discuss Aguero/Reus & most importantly Morata
sorry for the long post
