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XaviMessiGirl

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Yeah and what about the (at least) two penalty claims that Inter were denied? ;)

Was an ugly challenge though, cringed when I saw it. Thought he would get more than one game too, but maybe his history (he is not known for stuff like that), the fact he went and apologized more than once (both on the pitch and he went to Juve dressing room after the match), had something to do with it. If it had been Chivu or someone like that he probably would have gotten 3 matches.
 

Raed

Dr. Raed St. Claire
Chivu would have been exiled.

Anyway, that was a horrible challenge by Cambiasso and considering it is his first red in an Inter shirt (as I read on twitter) you can see why the Italia FA wasn't too severe. If he had gotten more, it would have been fair still. It is what it is.

There is no way in hell Inter were getting another penalty, no matter how clear. Inter always have to play against the odds against Juve but Juve are the better team. Sucks for the 3rd spot though.
 

XaviMessiGirl

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Yep, was his first red card. You could tell afterwards it was just a brief lapse of judgment rather than an intentionally malicious challenge.
 

Ode to Django

You're not even a real journalism
You could tell he was going to get it, as he was going nuts even before he was subbed in. It was horrible but a little out of character. Still should've got alot more than the single game.
 

PearLBLacK

Banned
You all must've heard about the Taribo West story by now. And now apparently Milan's Galliani has something to share:

Galliani says another Milan legend has not been truthful about age: After the revelations that former Milan & Inter defender Taribo West is actually 12 years older than what was really indicated, Adriano Galliani said that there are others:

"Not only Taribo West, I remember seeing three different passports for another great Milan player. Even if some of these players lied about their age, they played incredible in their 40's"

Anybody want to venture a guess about who Galliani is talking about?
-Matteo Bonetti on Sulia

;)
 

ejuventus

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Yeah and what about the (at least) two penalty claims that Inter were denied? ;)

Was an ugly challenge though, cringed when I saw it. Thought he would get more than one game too, but maybe his history (he is not known for stuff like that), the fact he went and apologized more than once (both on the pitch and he went to Juve dressing room after the match), had something to do with it. If it had been Chivu or someone like that he probably would have gotten 3 matches.

Handanovic on Vidal was much more penalty than Chiellini on Cambiasso.
I don't know the other you mention, but I know that Inter's gol was born from a Guarin's foul on Chiellini.

but I don't give a damn about ALL that: the ref didn't influence the match at all......as even Moratti admitted (and that's incredbile).

In ANY CASE ....... the ref can be wrong: he's on pitch, running, with 20 men running fast around him. He can be wrong.
But for who confortably sit down the day after in a office, simply to give sentences for what everybody saw, IT IS UNFORGIVEBLE TO GIVE 1 MATCH SUSPENSION:

That shows a clear bad faith.
No excuse.

All things well known to who well knows the facts in italian football in recent years
 

XaviMessiGirl

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Handanovic on Vidal was much more penalty than Chiellini on Cambiasso.
I don't know the other you mention, but I know that Inter's gol was born from a Guarin's foul on Chiellini.

but I don't give a damn about ALL that: the ref didn't influence the match at all......as even Moratti admitted (and that's incredbile).

In ANY CASE ....... the ref can be wrong: he's on pitch, running, with 20 men running fast around him. He can be wrong.
But for who confortably sit down the day after in a office, simply to give sentences for what everybody saw, IT IS UNFORGIVEBLE TO GIVE 1 MATCH SUSPENSION:

That shows a clear bad faith.
No excuse.

All things well known to who well knows the facts in italian football in recent years

There was also Chiellini on Cassano & Chiellini on Kovacic. Obviously I don't expect very many refs to give three penalties against the same club but to not give AT LEAST one... but meh, if Inter needed penalties to draw or win it wouldn't have been as satisfying anyway. I was just making a point.

And yeah like I said I had expected Cambiasso to get maybe three match ban, but saying it was only one because of a conspiracy between FIGC/Inter? Before I remember you saying something like Conte was banned because of "Milanese mafia" & some agreement between Inter & Milan to ruin Juve. Do you think everything is a conspiracy? And if Inter do have everyone in their pockets, they're doing a great job of covering it up considering the league table.
 

ejuventus

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There was also Chiellini on Cassano & Chiellini on Kovacic. Obviously I don't expect very many refs to give three penalties against the same club but to not give AT LEAST one... but meh, if Inter needed penalties to draw or win it wouldn't have been as satisfying anyway. I was just making a point.

And yeah like I said I had expected Cambiasso to get maybe three match ban, but saying it was only one because of a conspiracy between FIGC/Inter? Before I remember you saying something like Conte was banned because of "Milanese mafia" & some agreement between Inter & Milan to ruin Juve. Do you think everything is a conspiracy? And if Inter do have everyone in their pockets, they're doing a great job of covering it up considering the league table.


Only you saw the penalty on Kovacic......... none between inter supportrs either.

Anyway, Inter don't need to cover anything: in Italy people have lost dignity, and don't care if you corrupt or destroy public things.
in 2013 a man called Berlusconi still got 1 vote on 3 in the general election, and that says enough.

About Calciopoli, I can repeat something.........but I hope some of you will open ears: it was ascertained that ONLY ONE TEAM made offence.
Juve?
No, about Juve.....after 3 years of investigation and public denigration on all medias (owned 90% by Berlusconi and Moratti), the court stated:
"not a single match was fixed; not a single ref was contacted. There wasn't any joke with yellow or red cards. The championships were REGULAR"

Unfortunately, meanwhile a wonderful team was destroyed: not only technically (Ibrahimovic, Emerson, Trezeguet, Vieira, Cannavaro, Zambrotta, Thuram, Mutu were leaving) but specially mediatically and on a level of management.
Hundreds of milions of € of damages, that nobody has paid back, against the team who has always been the base of the Italy NT triumphes.....included 2006 WC in Germany, with 5 starters and Lippi on the bench.

At the end of accusation (autumn 2009) the Prosecutor (mr. Narducci) publicly and solemnly stated in front of the Court:
"May it like or not, there are NOT other interceptions from other clubs"
What around 50 milions of boors had been thinkink for the previous 3 and half years.
After that, word passed to the defence.....which in a few months discovered serious Inter's calls to referees chief and directly to the same refs with evident pressures and gifts from Mr. Moratti.
In one of these calls, the chief of the referees (Mr. Bergamo) called the ref who was going to direct the match Inter-Juve, saying him to favour Inter in case of doubt.
In another call, former Inter's president (Mr. Facchetti) called DIRECTLY the ref of an Inter's match ASKING esplicitly to make his team win.

Those are just a couple of thing of 5-6 years of murky situation in italian football and society.
All those things are well known to everybody, but ....as i stated at the beginning....... it takes to have dignity to have a right reaction on that. If you have lost dignity, you get used to certain things.
Italians did and we have nowadays situation, which is not limitated ot football.
 
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XaviMessiGirl

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Well we could argue about it til the day we die but truthfully everyone is always going to be biased toward the club they like & see it from their perspective. I have never met an Inter or Juve fan who sees things from the other's point of view, which is honestly understandable since you want to support your club.
 

ejuventus

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Well we could argue about it til the day we die but truthfully everyone is always going to be biased toward the club they like & see it from their perspective. I have never met an Inter or Juve fan who sees things from the other's point of view, which is honestly understandable since you want to support your club.

Not I disagree

It's not question of supporting, it's question of Justice. More than football.
It's question of the behaviour of the people, their dignity. Supporting doesn't count anything at all.

If Moggi or some other from Juve had committed illecit, why should I be say that Juve were not worthy of being punished?
And why should another team be punished if they hadn't committed anything?
I'd be the first one to accuse Moggi, actually!

But facts are not like that: Inter's management DID commit illecit, while Juve's didn't.
It's Federation to state that.......but you can find all interceptions on youtube, and they're very clear.
But in front of the most self-evident calls and fact, anti-Juve supporters don't have any reaction. Totally passive.
They would have to deny all the stories they have told each other, and to do that it takes more dignity than the average in Italy.

Remember: in 2013, 1 on 3 voted Berlusconi.
Remember 2: he is the president of the rival club of Juve
 
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Ode to Django

You're not even a real journalism
Montolivo scores vs his old club. :wub:

I don't usually bang on about refs..but that was the most incompetent ref i've ever seen, i mean wtf was that. fucking horrible.

Finished 2-2.

Lazio-Roma tomorrow, can't wait.
 
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