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Learo

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Yeah, but that guy was one of the most marketable players in the world and is 10 years younger than T. Silva.

exactly. it is a huge difference. neymar is an investment like no other player. we have probably already earned 10m from that purchase already.
 
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Learo

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He will surely be better than Capoue :pep:

definitely not. Capoue has all the qualities to succeed for us. It wouldnt surprise me if Pep brings Capoue to Bayern to partner Dante and Martinez.

I think the excessive expectations ppl have of Silva is totally unwarranted.
 

Meitux

Active member
definitely not. Capoue has all the qualities to succeed for us. It wouldnt surprise me if Pep brings Capoue to Bayern to partner Dante and Martinez.

I think the excessive expectations ppl have of Silva is totally unwarranted.
I tell what i see.If not the best CB in the world cant succeed expectations for Barcelona who can?I dont think Martinez will play CB,propably DM.He would be wasted in defense
 

Aryagorn

Improvin' Perfection!!
I don't get this fixation on a single player regardless of cost and economical implications... First it was Neymar and now Silva, like there were no other alternatives or if the world would end if we don't sign them...

Seriously, does our management chose signings based on video game ratings? I don't mean to say Neymar and Silva are bad players, but they are not the only ones out there, at least have some real options goddammit... But then I remember our second candidate is David Luiz...
It is actually understandable in Neymar's case... He is the MOST popular Brazilian currently, the upcoming WC is hosted by Brazil, so there will be a bulk load of shirt sale and stuff and then the sponsor income his sponsorors being Nike too!!
Apart from that, he does look really magical. If in case he did reach his potential he could be massive, so his transfer is a must-take risk.

But the fixation on Thiago Silva does look stupid
 
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Keikoku

Cabbage
Yeah, but that guy was one of the most marketable players in the world and is 10 years younger than T. Silva.

exactly. it is a huge difference. neymar is an investment like no other player. we have probably already earned 10m from that purchase already.

Yeah true, but what I want to say is, with Rosell it's everything possible if he want to.
I believe if Rosell really want to get TS, he will do everything he can, even pay 50-60m (with portion payments etc etc) :rosell:
 
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Learo

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I tell what i see.If not the best CB in the world cant succeed expectations for Barcelona who can?I dont think Martinez will play CB,propably DM.He would be wasted in defense

Martinez will move during games, playing both cb and dm. thats why pep wanted him after his spectacular performances in that role for Bilbao under Peps idol Bielsa. Capoue would knock out Boateng in that case, not Martinez.

Who can suceed for us? Someone younger who are more likely to adapt and wont cost the equivalent of a spaceship.
 

ZenI

Professor Balthazar
Not even silva will solve our defense problem. With pique alba and alves it wont be easy for him . If we buy him and he gets injured what then?? We will have the same situation as we had last season. We need at least two defender to solve our problem.

Add to that a midfield that can't defend (except Busi) and yeah, I agree. Even with Alba sucking as a defender (if he's not on the oppositions half that is), Alves bombarding forward - Xavi has totally declined in his defensive work, Iniesta was never good at it and Messi doesn't press anymore = you guys (and girls) really think TS will step in and fix all of our defensive problem? Think again. And if Thiago stays, another CM who suck at defending. We have to play with a LB/RB that stays put and doesn't get pushed around.
 

Tomchin

New member
Add to that a midfield that can't defend (except Busi) and yeah, I agree. Even with Alba sucking as a defender (if he's not on the oppositions half that is), Alves bombarding forward - Xavi has totally declined in his defensive work, Iniesta was never good at it and Messi doesn't press anymore = you guys (and girls) really think TS will step in and fix al of our defensive problem? Think again. And if Thiago stays, another CM who suck at defending. We have to play with a LB/RB that stays put and doesn't get pushed around.
Undoubtedly our defence won't be perfect yet, but surely it will be an upgrade to last season?
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Of course he would make a massive difference as he is at heart a defender and a leader.

Something that only Puyol is at the moment.

Pique and Masch are better at being given the role of the CB that steps out to win the ball early. Neither are comfortable being the more defensive minded organiser/leader at the back.

Sign Thiago Silva and try to get more balance between Alba and Alves going forward and it would make a big difference.

Still have reservations about either Alves or Alba when asked to tuck in and help the CBs though. More so Alba.
 

Meitux

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Add to that a midfield that can't defend (except Busi) and yeah, I agree. Even with Alba sucking as a defender (if he's not on the oppositions half that is), Alves bombarding forward - Xavi has totally declined in his defensive work, Iniesta was never good at it and Messi doesn't press anymore = you guys (and girls) really think TS will step in and fix all of our defensive problem? Think again. And if Thiago stays, another CM who suck at defending. We have to play with a LB/RB that stays put and doesn't get pushed around.
I would like to have Busquets and a box to box midfielder.Surely from the defensive view we have a very weak midfield.Alba and Alves are both attacking minded,Alves seems to have his glory years behind him,he is horrible in defending and he is 30.I wouldnt mind selling him,if we need to have a balance in defense between the fullbacks comparing of Alba and Alves,Alves has to be removed from the starting line up.Its about right time for Montoya
 
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Learo

Guest
Undoubtedly our defence won't be perfect yet, but surely it will be an upgrade to last season?

we need two cbs and montoya as rb. Pique need to feel some fire under his boots. and the same applies to xavi. we need a holistic approach to our issues, not splash an infinite amount of money on another 29 year old.
 

Meitux

Active member
we need two cbs and montoya as rb. Pique need to feel some fire under his boots. and the same applies to xavi. we need a holistic approach to our issues, not splash an inifinite amount of money on another 29 year old.
Yeah i always believed so.We will never have a stable defense with Pique in it,he has no competition and hes really lazy.But from the moment someone better and consistent came around i wouldnt mind Pique sitting mostly on the bench
 

ZenI

Professor Balthazar
Of course he would make a massive difference as he is at heart a defender and a leader.

Something that only Puyol is at the moment.

Pique and Masch are better at being given the role of the CB that steps out to win the ball early. Neither are comfortable being the more defensive minded organiser/leader at the back.

Sign Thiago Silva and try to get more balance between Alba and Alves going forward and it would make a big difference.

Still have reservations about either Alves or Alba when asked to tuck in and help the CBs though. More so Alba.

Thing is, I wonder if Puyol/Pique in the 10-12 season would actually look that good without Abidal, a better defensive version of Xavi, a Keita + a super hungry team that pressed relentlessly starting with Messi. That is what I'm talking about - if all things stay the same and we just put Thiago in there it will make a very small difference imho. 3 players counter attacking with Alba already lying down because he got a small shove and Alves somewhere on the other half against Pique and TS - still most probably a goal scored.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Thing is, I wonder if Puyol/Pique in the 10-12 season would actually look that good without Abidal, a better defensive version of Xavi, a Keita + a super hungry team that pressed relentlessly starting with Messi. That is what I'm talking about - if all things stay the same and we just put Thiago in there it will make a very small difference imho. 3 players counter attacking with Alba already lying down because he got a small shove and Alves somewhere on the other half against Pique and TS - still most probably a goal scored.

It wont be a defence as good as that in the past as you said because Abidal is not there but it would be a massive step up simply having a pure defender and leader back there. Something that without Puyol is clearly missing.
 

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