Transfers and Rumors

vuji_31

Senior Member
I think he plays as CB.

Also, I don't want any business with those frauds, they will offer us De Schiglio and Danilo for Araujo and De Jong.
 

Porque

Senior Member
Flamengo done good. 30m for 369 minutes and 6 minutes played over the past 7 games.

There is definitely a Brazilian talents arms race going on in the PL right now.
 

iniestaGOAT

Senior Member
Flamengo done good. 30m for 369 minutes and 6 minutes played over the past 7 games.

There is definitely a Brazilian talents arms race going on in the PL right now.

Yet nobody could sign Vitor roque

Cause they couldn't compete with their daddy
 

khaled_a_d

Senior Member
Deivid Washington to Chelsea, deal now imminent after official bid submitted in the last hours for 2005 born Brazilian striker 🚨🔵🇧🇷

Deivid agreed personal terms and wants #CFC move — Strasbourg loan to follow.

€20m package bid submitted as per Globo... Santos, set to accept.

@Porque we talked about him before.
 

DonAK

President of FC Barcelona
If Chelsea buy you to loan you out you better get a big salary or sign-on-fee because the chances of this succeeding and the adaptation process going smoothly is extremely low.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Chelsea are about the best team out there at developing young players and either into first team or a good move on for big money.
 

Porque

Senior Member
@Porque we talked about him before.

Oh he is solid. Got to be frustrating for Deco btw to be SD of a club which is so limited on the market.

As for Chelsea, what can you say, they will sign anyone with a bit o potential.

Incredibly american way of running the club btw.

Buy as many prospects as possible with the guise of building equity.

Debt load the club and turnover enough to pay the interest rates.

Sell those who can't make an impact in the Chelsea 11 for whatever. Even a loss. Income is cash flow.

Add more debt to buy more assets and claim various growth metrics.

Go bust or sell the club to the Sheikhs for fuck you money.
 

Porque

Senior Member
Chelsea are -496.76m GBP as of today under Boehly. You would expect the spending will increase this window with Deived, Sanchez (GK) all but confirmed, and another bid tabled on another prospect in the region of 25m.

-832.05m over the last 3 years, and at -845.33m over the last 5 years.

Not going to go back further as Abramovich had issues of Russian money being spent in the UK and pulled back on spending.

But I can only imagine what their debt level is and amount of interest going out on transfer expenses and their ownership group loans.

Let's see how many of these prospects work out and if it brings them sporting success, while if they manage to turn a profit on the ones that don't.

I am doubtful.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
It is unlikely Chelsea have much debts or are paying interest in the money Boehly has put in.

The EPL is going to hoover up more and more of the top talents from around the world as they emerge in markets can be got at.

Things are only going to get 'worse' for other leagues on that front.

Chelsea have been one of the best at selling players on young players for money. Probably the best in Europe at it for both promoting and selling on players who dont quite make it.
 

Porque

Senior Member
Yep, the EPL will hoover the talents but Chelsea are taking it to an extreme, and overall with both limited sporting success and selling at a loss overall. That's not counting wages and running costs.

Still room for Barcelona/Madrid and Italians to be competitive on talents though as wages are generally low and transfer fees are generally modest. Milan clubs are somewhat (and Italian clubs in general, possibly thanks to their Beckham law and laxer salary cap rules) having a resurgence in the market somewhat.

In Barcelona case, just need to weather this salary cap storm and get finances in order so can make those 10/20m strategic moves without blinking.

What usually happens (take Meriton buying Valencia) is they will buy the club with a loan from their country, say 200m from Meriton on HK, and have the club pay back this loan to themselves on higher interest terms than the holding company are paying to their bank/investors. Free money basically.

So a club like Chelsea are taking this to the extreme and propping it up with their PL base income streams (TV rights, TIcketing, etc) while paying themselves back on interest, letting the club accumilate the burden.

Of course in the PL and certainly a London based club, you can push this model to the limit.
Probably with their eye on a buyout down the road.
 

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