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JamDav1982
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He wasnt one of best midfielders in EPL, he fell away a lot in the last few months of the season.
Top teams wont be paying over 15m for him when they know Barca want to sell and he never looked good enough at club.
Alik
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Yet Chelsea manage to sell the likes of Shurrle for 30 million euros.
JamDav1982
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What relevance does that have?
Shurle was more highly rated, younger and had just helped Germany win the World Cup.
Teams will offer what they think Song is worth.
Alik
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You said that teams won't pay 15m for Song because we want to sell him and he wasn't good enough. Yet Chelsea also wanted to sell Schurrle and he had the same level performances (arguably worse) than Song, and they managed to do that for twice the fee.
"Teams will offer what they think Song is worth."
Sure, but it is inexplicable how Barca players always seem to be worth less. The answer is that we're poor negotiators.
JamDav1982
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Thats like claiming Mata should generate same fee as Song as Chelsea wanted rid of him.
Shurlle was a good player at Chelsea in a competitive position and he had played well for Germany at international level. There was never the feeling that Shurlle was a failure at Chelsea he just had players in his position that were better.
He was seen as a very good young player with best years ahead of him who was a bit unlucky to have good players ahead of him at Chelsea but did well when played.
Very different situations.
To be fair you could say something similar about song. Come off the back of a good year with arsenal and was on the brink of taking his game to the next level, but entered a team which contained sergio busquets, the best in the world in his position.
If your club can hype up a player like that you can get more money for him. Chelsea and madrid are good at this.
If your club can hype up a player like that you can get more money for him. Chelsea and madrid are good at this.
Alik
Moderator
Shurrle had to compete against the likes of Willian. You can definitely consider Shurrle's spell a failure at Chelsea imo.
Song had to compete vs Busquets, or play out of position. Whilst his stay at Barca can be considered a failure, he had a decent season with West Ham.
And I'm not saying Song should be sold for 30 million, I'm saying he would be sold for 15 million had it been a club like Chelsea negotiating under the same circumstances.
Song had to compete vs Busquets, or play out of position. Whilst his stay at Barca can be considered a failure, he had a decent season with West Ham.
And I'm not saying Song should be sold for 30 million, I'm saying he would be sold for 15 million had it been a club like Chelsea negotiating under the same circumstances.
JamDav1982
Senior Member
Song was a bad signing that was never suited to Barcelona style and never looked good enough.
At time a lot of people said his game was limited and Barcelona had made a mistake.
In no way was Song looking like a great DM at Barca that was unlucky to have a good player ahead of him. In my opinion.
Having said that I think he suits the current tactics more but that is another debate!
JamDav1982
Senior Member
Willian is a very good player and Shurrle was good when called upon just not good enough to break into first team.
The difference is that Song looks a big drop in standard at Barca and nowhere near Busquets level.
Its not all determined by the selling clubs.
JamDav1982
Senior Member
What would you do if no one offered 10m for him?
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