UEFA Europa League 2014-15
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linetty
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Sevilla was lucky not to get their ass kicked yesterday 
Antimilan
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Sevilla was lucky not to get their ass kicked yesterday
Well luck sides with the strong they say... of course you will need luck to win a competition. Besides, compare the 2-3 occasions of 1vs1 for Sevilla (+ many other mild chances) and the mild chances (all) of M'gladbach... more like blind deflected shots.
Therefore, M'Gladbach also had 'luck'.
Antimilan
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Premier League is all hype and artificiality produced by the media. They are quite solid marketing wise, which makes them more of a brand = 'The Premier League', and they are more successful than La Liga only on the business aspect, not the football aspect. They have a massive audience and massive fan-bases in Asia, which is a great source of income. La Liga failed on that, concentrated on producing better football and sucking business wise. I'm talking about the La Liga as a brand, not Barca or RM, they're doing pretty good on that aspect (probably).
Lately, for many years now, Premier League in fact has only 1 up to 2 teams that are really worth something regarding Football. You can't mention City, when they never went far in CHL or EL. You also cannot mention the likes of Arsenal and Liverpool, who are sucking big time lately in Europe. You also cannot mention Man Utd who have been quite inconsistent on recent seasons (also let's not forget the crushing from Bilbao in EL etc. even when they had Sir Alex). As for the other teams, they never achieved something big either in the Premier League or Europe to even mention them. (I'm talking about modern football, not that Nottingham Forest thing of the stone age)
So... what is left? Chelsea? Ok, so there you have 1 team. Everything else is fabricated and pure marketing. Premier League is doing good as a company in the business world, hats off for that. Football? Not at all. What I'm saying also reflects on England national team's poor performances almost always now either in EC or WC.
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Yannik
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because i have seen the match.
And if you would have seen the match, then you wouldnt ask why there are so many discussions about the outcome of it.
But Emery did it smart after all because they were effective and there was luck of course. Sevilla was time wasting after the 30minute, Gladbach had 25 recorded shots, several times post, crossbar, situations 3m in front of goal where they hit a defender or goalkeeper, they had a legit hand penalty disallowed in the 67th minute that - if it wouldnt have been hand - would have rolled into the empty goal, they then received a red card 30 seconds later instead of that (which was the key situation that ended the game), Sevilla tried to involve other yellow carded Gladbach players into fights, they ran into the opponents box when the goalkeeper was supposed to make a goalkick, they faked leg cramps after 40 minutes, held onto the ball after receiving a goal and so on. It was the typical "One team plays, the other team parks the bus and counters"-match. Gladbach was by far the better team, not even a Sevilla fan would doubt that, but results can tell you different storys about how a game went down. We all have experineced that often enough to know how misleading the results can be.
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You don't know what you are talking about. Gladbach was clearly the better team but were unlucky to capitalize on most of their fairly good opportunities. Sevilla in contrast were ruthless in that regard and played somewhat dirty as in wasted time as often as possible, even getting penalised for it.
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linetty
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Everytime I switched on the game I witnessed Sevilla curled up in their own box. Gladbach were all over them and the there were lucky to come out alive.
Antimilan
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We didn't need to attack pal. Sevilla does not have Barca's or Real's human and financial resources (players and money) to control every match 100%, and even then Barca and Real don't do it quite frequently. We are the kings of EL and crush every opponent with strategy and finesse. In the post above I explained everything that needs to be explained about the match and especially for those like you who 'switched to it from time to time', as it seems the majority here comments without watching the games from the first whistle to the full time. Sevilla had like 6-7 chances, every time they wanted they could make a chance, scored 2, missed 2 silly one on ones, and a couple of others which were quite close, one of them a header saved only by the post. M'gladbach was never going to make it, ever.
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linetty
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Do you think Gladbach has Barca's or Real's resources? Yet they have been second in their leauge for a good while and should be coming out of this tie as winners.
I know you're a die hard Sevilla fan but they are not going to win the whole thing, they won't get past Villarreal even (they're significantly inferior compared to last season, losing Rakitic being the main factor I guess). I'd bet on Wolfsburg to win it.
Bucky
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Nail on the head, great read Antimilan that was awesome.
It is frustrating to see, living here with the delusional crowd who believe the media hype. I cannot escape it because every sports medium is bias. It's why I'm crying out for something as small as BarçaTV here at least so then I get my football & none bias hit (well ok maybe Barça bias but I can deal with that as a fan lol).
Indeed you're right, the poor performance of the PL does show in the national team and they're usually talking about how to fix that after an England game when they haven't shown up or met expectations before that talk dies down again. English leagues are full of teams that have been to the top, won glory in even Europe but now reside either mid table of the Prem and below. It's a money game and money does talk - Chelsea, City, however as far as success in EU goes that's just sad.
Man U - since Fergie stepped down it's a shambles, they don't strike that fear into teams any more. Liverpool started to have something with Suárez in there but have once again begun to fade away. Arsenal, pfff same old same old.
Antimilan
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I only wished to avoid the Russians (due to the weather and long distance) and Wolfsburg (who are in phenomenal form lately). We have beat Villarreal almost always and I don't see any problem eliminating them from EL in this tie. It will be tough of course, last year even Betass gave us headaches, but we made it through. This season though there are many good teams (as there were last season also) and it will be tough, however, if we make it to the quarterfinal, I don't see us stopping anytime sooner than the final.
The biggest motivation is that we can nullify the 4th place (La Liga) effect (CL play-off qualification) with a possible EL win. So we can lift the trophy with one hand and wave Valencia goodbye from the CL with the other hand, assuming they have the 4th.
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Good of you to be positive, I wouldn't mind Sevilla winning it myself.
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