Viktor Gyökeres

Iniesta Ultra

Senior Member
I am a regular watcher of the Championship and I saw this player play many times for Swansea and Coventry. He was alright but nothing special. He also was contracted with Brighton (before they became a top half team) and never managed to make a single Premier League appearance for them. For Brighton, he only managed to make the bench twice in any Premier League game.

He was loaned to Swansea in the Championship and failed to score a single goal for them.

He was loaned to the Bundesliga 2 and scored 7 goals in 19 appearances. The 2nd Bundesliga is roughly on par with the Liga Portugal or likely worse. At this time (21 years old) he was rated at £500k by Transfermarkt.

He moved to Coventry for a small sum of 1 million euros and in his first season, was again only a bench option.

After 2023, his performance began to pick up tremendously and he went from a player who could not even make the bench at Brighton and Swansea to a prolific scorer in the Championship, becoming arguably the best striker in the league in the space of a year, preceding which, he was unable to make a single Premier League appearance for Brighton or even be an effective striker in the 2nd league of Germany.

The first time Viktor Gyokeres played top division football is at the age of 25.

At the age of 25, which in my opinion, is an unusually late age to show unbelievable sudden improvement, he began to become one of the highest performing strikers in Europe, scoring 29 goals in one Liga Portugal season. He now has 16 goals in 10 appearances in this current season.

In my opinion, there are few explanations for how a player that was not even good enough to perform for the likes of Swansea, St Pauli and not even good enough to make the bench at Brighton has suddenly become a £70 million rated striker at Sporting.

For me it is hard to explain how a player goes from being poor or average to one of the best strikers in Europe in the space of a year. Whilst there are sometimes remarkable cases in which players suddenly become elite footballers, they are extremely rare.

Therefore, it is my strong belief that this player is a drug cheat.

For reference, here are his physical stats from his performance in the CL :

Top speed : 34.55km/hr

Average : 34.14 avg. per match!!!!!!!

34.55km/hr is generally considered to be around the highest echelon of top speed, usually we do not see players surpassing 35 or 36, this puts him as one of the fastest strikers in the world, but the most shocking thing, as highlighted, is the fact his average speed (likely referring to any high intensity sprint in game) is almost the same as his actual top recorded speed. So roughly every time he makes a high intensity sprint he is almost reaching his top speed.

His ridiculously strong physical performance along with his very unique and fast rise to elite level whilst previously being a 2nd division level footballer, in my opinion, suggests irregularities.

As my opinion is based purely on speculation, I don't proclaim it as fact and it is purely my opinion, however, I would be wary that when this player moves to a league with more stringent drug testing his performance may decline significantly.

So I believe we should avoid signing him lest his performance unexplainably decreases when he moves to a top league.

This is hilarious. Gyok is obviously not a retard, he wouldn't risk his career on that. You on the other hand not retarded but challenged in many ways.

What's actually hard to believe is donkey's increase in efficiency over the past year, even more of a mindfuck if his numbers don't drop significantly since talent-wise besides shooting accuracy he doesn't have anything else.
 

Birdy

Senior Member
He is a great goalscorer with terrific physique. Those are his strengths.

He's not the type to create chances out of nothing. If he's not worse than Haaland on the ball then at best he's slightly better, hard to say. It doesn't matter though because it's far from Aguero, Benzema, Suarez, Lewy level to be a strength of his.

Haaland is scoring goals without dribbling and he will too with the right service.

From all the vids and compilations it's clear he is much better than Haaland on the ball.

And in the 1 most important aspect our football needs: receiving with back to goal and linking up with teammates.
I would say he is better than Lewa on that aspect too
 

DonAK

President of FC Barcelona
Bas Dost scored 34 goals in 31 games for Sporting in that league.

Not saying he won't be great when he goes to another league, but that league is very hit or miss, and with strikers it tends to stray on the 'miss' side of things.
 

ajnotkeith

Senior Member
This is hilarious. Gyok is obviously not a retard, he wouldn't risk his career on that. You on the other hand not retarded but challenged in many ways.

What's actually hard to believe is donkey's increase in efficiency over the past year, even more of a mindfuck if his numbers don't drop significantly since talent-wise besides shooting accuracy he doesn't have anything else.
The best cyclist of all time risked his career on that.

Debunked in one sentence.
 

Ter Stature

Active member
Bas Dost scored 34 goals in 31 games for Sporting in that league.

Not saying he won't be great when he goes to another league, but that league is very hit or miss, and with strikers it tends to stray on the 'miss' side of things.
Bad comparison when Gyokeres already scored 10 goals for his NT. Sporting is also unbeaten in the CL and League...
The game vs City will tell us more.
 

Ter Stature

Active member
There have been many great players from the Liga, them not being strikers isn't an argument.
Pavlidis dominated in the Eredivisie, but he's a small fish in the Portuguese league.

Some also miss that Gyokeres is so dominant because he's always available. Very good on penalties.

But Costa, a very mediocre keeper doesn't get any of those critical comments, just seems to be an age or bias thing, supposedly worth 50 million despite only ever playing at Porto and looking very bad in the Euro League against Manure.
 

ajnotkeith

Senior Member
Different era, debunked your fake debunk.

Six word sentence.
So I will make a deal with you, you said different era means my example is not valid.

I'll give you fifty current athletes from major sports who were caught doping (they all have to be first division or world level).

If I can't come up with the list I delete my account, if you are wrong you delete yours, what do you say?
 

DonAK

President of FC Barcelona
Here's my POV when it comes to signing a striker to replace Lewandowski.

Don't spend big money unless you're guaranteed results. Like 100% guarantee. And I don't see how Gyokeres does that. Spending the amount of money it will probably take in a bidding war + the salary should only be reserved for World Class players.

I think Lewandowski stays until 2026 and then.....you see if Haaland is attainable or if there's other options on the market. Meanwhile you can roll the dice on someone like Jonathan David for free next summer or maybe even Marmoush if he's available for a reasonable price.
 

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