ajnotkeith
Senior Member
Flick has converted the haters!
Look how optimistic this place is now. Love it.
Look how optimistic this place is now. Love it.
What will we win this year
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ajnotkeith
Senior Member
Well, you were calling him a bum...
Least he deserved after the worst run of games we had in modern times. And lets be honest he got bailed out by Real+Atletico... we still have less points per game than under Xavi last season
That being said I also continuously wished him to succeed and called him very likable. Critic? Sure. Hater? Don't think so.
ajnotkeith
Senior Member
PPG is not really a useful statistic outside of any context, last season we were miles off the pace and had already lost the league mid season, we strung together wins at the backend of the season.Least he deserved after the worst run of games we had in modern times. And lets be honest he got bailed out by Real+Atletico... we still have less points per game than under Xavi last season
That being said I also continuously wished him to succeed and called him very likable. Critic? Sure. Hater? Don't think so.
It would be akin to pointing out how Madrid had an incredibly poor season during Xavi's title win. That doesn't mean it was easy, it probably just signifies that Madrid gave up when the difference became unassailable.
ajnotkeith
Senior Member
Genuinely not sure how you come to this conclusion.
Fully fit Pedri. Yamal in teenage goat mode (made Spain brilliant to watch and best national team on the planet as well). Cubarsi a year older. Raph continuing on the path Xavi set him on (end of last season). Balde fully fit. Olmo to a lesser degree...
I could go on. What did Xavi have more of? Perpetual losers like Felix and Cancelo?
I could go on. What did Xavi have more of? Perpetual losers like Felix and Cancelo?
MonteCuler
Well-known member
Reason likes of Pedri and Balde are fit is Flick's medical staff. They didn't just magically stop with their injuries. Cubarsi was good last season. Raphinha was there too and Xavi realized too late he's been misusing him for all his time at Barça, got only himself to blame.
That's pure fiction. Club worked for ages on a plan for Pedri. Flick reaping the benefits now. Balde also just had 1 unfortunate injury.. poor luck for Xavi, really.
Cubarsi was good, but is even better now. Raph was reinvented by Xavi. Maybe too late, but it was on his merit. Easier to say stuff in hindsight. Also Balde makes this Raph way more viable. Neatly covers his weaknesses.
jamrock
Senior Member
Multiple legit reasons we are doing better this season than last.
Which doesn't take anything away from flick.
Or to say Xavi didn't fuck up.
The usual suspects are so quick to paint some form of burning house that flick saved.
The house was actually burning when Xavi and laporta took over, they outted the fire and built a great foundation that he's now building on.
Thank god for Xavi and laporta, also that he didn't listen to 99% of posters here, instead of talking about a treble we would be talking about how great it feels to finish 4th.
Which doesn't take anything away from flick.
Or to say Xavi didn't fuck up.
The usual suspects are so quick to paint some form of burning house that flick saved.
The house was actually burning when Xavi and laporta took over, they outted the fire and built a great foundation that he's now building on.
Thank god for Xavi and laporta, also that he didn't listen to 99% of posters here, instead of talking about a treble we would be talking about how great it feels to finish 4th.
ajnotkeith
Senior Member
So your argument is essentially the same players who were there under Xavi are playing better now, therefore the squad is better.
Well. Not sure how I can respond to that.
It seems a bit of a desperate argument to try and drag down the team's current achievements. Raphinha is 28. A 6 month difference didn't turn him into a superstar.
And injuries mate. It's not rocket science.
No, Xavi laid the foundation. Flick followed through. Both deserve credit.
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