Who shall be the new 4th captain

Who shall be the new 4th captain

  • Mascherano

    Votes: 46 44.7%
  • Pique

    Votes: 49 47.6%
  • Rakitic

    Votes: 1 1.0%
  • Bravo

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • ter Stegen

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Neymar

    Votes: 1 1.0%
  • Suarez

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Alba

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Alves

    Votes: 2 1.9%
  • Pedro

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Adriano

    Votes: 3 2.9%
  • Bartra

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Montoya

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Mathieu

    Votes: 1 1.0%
  • Rafinha

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    103

goope

Member
Until the end of last year it was: Puyol, Xavi, Iniesta, Valdes
Until the end of the month it will be: Xavi, Iniesta, Messi, Busquets

I'd like to have Iniesta, Messi, Busquets, Mascherano
 

goope

Member
Should only be two options here : Pique or Masche

I know that it will be down to them, that's why they are the first two.
But I could choose between 15, so why not? I was curious if someone would vote for someone else than these two.
 

goope

Member
Pique. He deserves it.


Why? Because Masche was more consistent in the last 5 years and Pique had one good season after bad years before, he should be captain now? Just because he is Catalan/ La Masia product?

Masche is more of a leader than Pique imho cause he stays calm and focused more constantly than Pique.
 
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Flavia

Guest
Why? Because Masche was more consistent in the last 5 years and Pique had one good season after bad years before, he should be captain now? Just because he is Catalan/ La Masia product?

Masche is more of a leader than Pique imho cause he stays calm and focused more constantly than Pique.

No, because he incorporated the role this year, on and off the pitch.
 

Stric

New member
Just because he is Catalan/ La Masia product?

If you think this doesn't/shouldn't matter, you're missing a big part of what makes Barcelona different that most European clubs. But anyway, it's a hard pick between the two. IMHO, it should be Iniesta, Messi, Pique and Mascherano, but that's obviously not going to happen.
 

Barcaman

Administrator
Staff member
Mascherano, Messi, Pique should be 3 captains. Iniesta and Busquets are great players but they have no charisma nor leadership qualities as the trio I mentioned.
 
Douglas would have come in 3rd in votes, no question, strategic mistake not to include him.

Piqué is the natural choice in terms of longevity at the club, players say they vote for whoever but they always prime seniority since puyol
In leadership skills alone, Masche tops Piqué, but he's the only one to do so.
 

Stric

New member
Mascherano, Messi, Pique should be 3 captains. Iniesta and Busquets are great players but they have no charisma nor leadership qualities as the trio I mentioned.

I agree. Although, Iniesta's attitude, experience and achievements make a strong argument for him being captain regardless of the lack of leadership/charisma.
 

goope

Member
No, because he incorporated the role this year, on and off the pitch.

That's why I am against it - this season
Mascherano - last seasons (plural)

A captain has the lead in difficult sitations.
Pique was (only) great when Barca was great - 1st treble season, 2010, this treble season
Mascherano was always reliable. Plus: He also showed that he can be a leader in the argentine team. Damn, he was captain in Argentina before Messi and if you watched the WC 2014 you could see that even though Messi was captain, Mascherano gave the motivational speech (I think it was at extra time break during the match against the Netherlands) so he still is the leader (together with messi if you want).

Also remember what Zubi said? "Everybody is talking about Xavi becoming a coach, but people are forgetting about Mascherano. He as the skills for it."
When you think about who shall be captain, imagine them being the coach. Vision, responsibility, picking up the team during tough situations. Duing this constantly and reliable over a period of many years - Pique or Mascherano? Pique? Over Mascherano? Really?

If you think this doesn't/shouldn't matter, you're missing a big part of what makes Barcelona different that most European clubs. But anyway, it's a hard pick between the two. IMHO, it should be Iniesta, Messi, Pique and Mascherano, but that's obviously not going to happen.

The captain should be the spokesmen of the coach on the pitch (that's how the Cruyff - Guardiola relationship got described by Pep or Cruyff, can't remember who but I guess one wouldn't argue against either of these two coaching legends and former Barca captains when it comes to this topic) and have the same characteristics of a coach. In recent years Barca had many Catalan/La Masia coaches, yes. But they had more non-Catalan coaches than Catalan coaches. Simply because sometimes the non-Catalan coaches were better. So why treat the question of who shall be 4th captain differently?
 
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Flavia

Guest
I think Masch and Pique should be captains before Busi. But being from la masia has a great influence on it. Both are already captains, anyway.
 

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