World Cup 2018

[JamDav1982]

Did you and everyone else called me a racist again. Eat your own shit and stop acting stupid.

Eh.... victim card again.

I never called you racist.

 

[Luftstalag14]

You have to be more concrete. You're saying it's ok to attack person verbally, but it's not OK to discredit a NT?

We attacked Ronaldo, Ramos or anybody because what they did, or because they are Real Madrid players (due to the collective bias of us Barca fans). We did not attack them because he was white, black, brown etc. or because he is Portuguese or Spanish. One's race, ethnicity, nationality, gender etc. are considered one's "protected attributes" etc., basically things people have no control of.

Labelling the French NT "an African team" essentially suggests/indicates they are not French because they are of African descent. And that is wrong.

 

[DonAK]

Did you and everyone else called me a racist again. Eat your own shit and stop acting stupid.

Didn't call you for a racist.

Go and bash the ones that did and stop bitching.

If you can find a post where I straight out call you for a racist then bring it and I'll own up to it.

 

[DonAK]

Here are some posts of mine when it comes to racism or people calling others for a racist:

http://www.barcaforum.com/showthread.php/14287-Adrien-Rabiot?p=1920952&highlight=racist#post1920952

http://www.barcaforum.com/showthread.php/14518-Politics?p=1850373&highlight=racist#post1850373

http://www.barcaforum.com/showthread.php/41-Pep-Guardiola?p=1925008&highlight=racist#post1925008

I have my morals and ethics where I don't feel a sense of superiority based on my race, religion, my ethnicity and where I live, nor do I get afraid or enraged to see a black or white dude in my neighborhood. And if I ever get into an argument or discussion I try to substantiate my arguments and make it clear whether I'm joking or being serious, I do sometimes fail, but when that happens I try to rectify and own up to it.

Can't say that about everyone.

 

[Barcaman]

We attacked Ronaldo, Ramos or anybody because what they did, or because they are Real Madrid players (due to the collective bias of us Barca fans). We did not attack them because he was white, black, brown etc. or because he is Portuguese or Spanish. One's race, ethnicity, nationality, gender etc. are considered one's "protected attributes" etc., basically things people have no control of.

Labelling the French NT "an African team" essentially suggests/indicates they are not French because they are of African descent. And that is wrong.

It indicates they are black and from Africa, which they are. Or is it not allowed to say it?

Sorry, you mistaken us for US or UK posters with colonial guilt. We don't owe shit to noone.
In fact we were attacked and ravaged by Ottoman Asian Muslims for 500 years which we thankfully expelled and defeated so maybe we could play the victim and race card.

Don't give half fucks if someone feels entitled because somewhere on the globe his ancestors hsppenef to be slaves. We were worse for far longer and noone asks us shit about it or offers sympathy.

 

[Luftstalag14]

It indicates they are black and from Africa, which they are. Or is it not allowed to say it?

Sorry, you mistaken us for US or UK posters with colonial guilt. We don't owe shit to noone.
In fact we were attacked and ravaged by Ottoman Asian Muslims for 500 years which we thankfully expelled and defeated so maybe we could play the victim and race card.

Don't give half fucks if someone feels entitled because somewhere on the globe his ancestors hsppenef to be slaves. We were worse for far longer and noone asks us shit about it or offers sympathy.

How does this have anything to do with colonial guilt?

If one day, I mean one day, God forbid, Croatia NT has a few black players should people start calling them "African players"?

What makes one French? What makes one Croatian?

 

[Windhook]

Eh... what's wrong with people being patriotic? Labelling everyone fascist/racist because of their history is completely wrong. As a Bulgarian (1994 World Cup) I completely understand the bitterness about the missed opportunity of becoming world champion, anyway I hope Croats will eventually realize they rewrote history of football and achieved something spectacular.

 

[JamDav1982]

It indicates they are black and from Africa, which they are. Or is it not allowed to say it?

Sorry, you mistaken us for US or UK posters with colonial guilt. We don't owe shit to noone.
In fact we were attacked and ravaged by Ottoman Asian Muslims for 500 years which we thankfully expelled and defeated so maybe we could play the victim and race card.

Don't give half fucks if someone feels entitled because somewhere on the globe his ancestors hsppenef to be slaves. We were worse for far longer and noone asks us shit about it or offers sympathy.

Nothing to do with 'colonial guilt'.

 

[Morten]

How does this have anything to do with colonial guilt?

If one day, I mean one day, God forbid, Croatia NT has a few black players should people start calling them "African players"?

What makes one French? What makes one Croatian?

Not really related to the black/white thing, really, but whenever i see an actual good Norwegian footballer, i sometimes do question the nationality of that player.

 

[eaman]

That goal by Pogba was a joke. Nobody of the Croat defence knew where the ball was when they blocked the first shot.

The goal by Mbappe... No defensive midfield and piss poor positioning by Subašić.

Ya the Croatian players didn't know where it was coz they turned their backs. You should never turn your back on a shot. They're getting paid enough to take a sore one if it comes to that

 

[dakt]

What makes one French? What makes one Croatian?

Good question. The sense of belonging I would say and the feeling that you want to protect it.
Obviously, now in France, being of African origin or European doesn't make a difference anymore after massive immigrations. It's already culturally "melted" or should I say lost.
While here, we still value our cultural heritage and we are not willing to surrender it so easily. Especially when small nation is in question, migrations can wipe us in a generation.
This is already happening in France. Sure, cultural leftovers are still there, but they are just that, a leftovers. France demographics has changed a lot and will continue until what was France before, becomes minority. Sure, if that is fine with them it's fine with us, their choice, but don't impose these values and policy on us. That is what EU is doing and why it's practically falling apart.

 

[Luftstalag14]

Good question. The sense of belonging I would say and the feeling that you want to protect it.
Obviously, now in France, being of African origin or European doesn't make a difference anymore after massive immigrations. It's already culturally "melted" or should I say lost.
While here, we still value our cultural heritage and we are not willing to surrender it so easily. Especially when small nation is in question, migrations can wipe us in a generation.
This is already happening in France. Sure, cultural leftovers are still there, but they are just that, a leftovers. France demographics has changed a lot and will continue until what was France before, becomes minority. Sure, if that is fine with them it's fine with us, their choice, but don't impose these values and policy on us. That is what EU is doing and why it's practically falling apart.

I am not here to discuss migration policies in the EU and its ramifications, what is right or wrong as I am not in any position to do so, nor do I have enough knowledge or expertise on it to opine.

I am simply saying, regardless of one's race and ethnicity, if that person holds the citizenship of France or Croatia or whatever country, feels French/Croatian/XXXXX, identifies with France/Croatia/XXXXX, he or she should be considered a French/Croatian/XXXXX just like the rest of them. That is my point.

 

[Givenchy]

Good question. The sense of belonging I would say and the feeling that you want to protect it.
Obviously, now in France, being of African origin or European doesn't make a difference anymore after massive immigrations. It's already culturally "melted" or should I say lost.
While here, we still value our cultural heritage and we are not willing to surrender it so easily. Especially when small nation is in question, migrations can wipe us in a generation.
This is already happening in France. Sure, cultural leftovers are still there, but they are just that, a leftovers. France demographics has changed a lot and will continue until what was France before, becomes minority. Sure, if that is fine with them it's fine with us, their choice, but don't impose these values and policy on us. That is what EU is doing and why it's practically falling apart.

one of the main reasons I want Brexit asap, restore sovereignty and protect what culture we have left

 

[amircule]

Champions du monde naaaaaarrrvvaaalllooooo !!!!!!!🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷

 

[Morten]

Perhaps my biggest issue with the EU is that you have a bunch of unelected bureaucrats in Brussel telling me in Norway what i can or cant do. I dont even get to vote for any of those guys, the whole thing is so undemocratic.