Would you sign Luis Suarez?

[John Antonio Bilboa]

Let's look at some of Barca's recent big money fiasco's ibrahimovich, chegrynski, fabregas, Caceres (even Neymar to some extent because of that debacle we're staring down the barrel of a transfer embargo) all these players were bought for huge sums and resold for piddling.
We actually did Shaktar a favour in buying chigy for shit loads and giving him back to them for something like half what they paid. In don't even get me started on the Ibra deal, I know we're in the business of charity with UNICEF but come the fuck on, somethings gotta give.Suarez isn't Messi or Ronaldo, he's had on stellar outlandish season that imo doesn't constitute us breaking the bank to sign a guy that won't be able to play for months and losing one of our best players in the process. The fact that Barca were even considering throwing Pedro into the mix is quite simply the most idiotic thing I've ever heard, why are we ditching decent players in an already slim squad that's gonna competing in 3 competitions

 

[John Antonio Bilboa]

utter bollocks? so you're seriously saying that Alexis is as good or better than Suárez and is a 'game changer'?! sorry i haven't seen it apart from his El Clásico chip goal which was pretty much completely out of character.

Alexis will probably explode but it won't happen at Barca. he will suit playing at Liverpool or Arsenal where he will have a lot more space and freedom to play to his natural strengths. even if he does improve further and perform well he won't ever reach Suárez's level.

Suárez adds what we have been missing the last season or two IMO and if it wasn't for the recent bite incident signing him would be an absolute no brainer.



Adama & Deulofeu instead of Suárez?! :thumbsup2:

I suppose the goal he scored against Atleti on the final day was also out of character huh? Coming off the bench and still managing to bag 20 goals is not worth commendation right?Cool ok duly noted. "What been missing" is a couple of half decent centre halves batra is lousy, Pique is brilliant though on the slow side and had been found wanting now that Puyi's gone. our priority should be to bolster the backline, revitalise the midfield and leave the rest to Don Andres and co.

 

[SwiftGuyver]

How did Lucho do at Roma?

not that great but he wasn't given enough time considering he was tasked with a rebuild job.

he did great with Barca B and Celta though.

 

[N11JELKA]

Alexis had by far the best season of his career so far last season and we still won nothing though. i accept that it had a lot to do with coaching & defensive issues but it was also a case of struggling to break down well organised defenses that were willing to sit back all game and try and hit us on the counter. we have Lucho now and will sign 1 or 2 CBs this summer but i believe we need something different upfront as well and Lucho clearly agrees!

did you even read what i wrote? you say he is such trouble like Barca don't have any history of signing players with behavioral issues. i agree that Suárez is a bit of a risk but we are talking about the 3rd best player in the world (my opinion) top 5 (fact), he is worth the risk IMO. Alexis is good and i like him but he will never offer what Suárez can. fingers crossed he manages to control himself and remain calm because if he does the Neymar-Messi-Suárez front line will be something truly special. it is by far the best forward line South America currently has to offer!

Completely agree with what you wrote. And if we don't sign him, he'll probably go to RM, would be deadly against us and our not that great defence. (btw I heard his preferences is for RM)
Still I refuse to support him, cause I'm completely against him. I know we had some trouble players, but for not so irritating as Suarez (my opinion).

 

[DonAK]

No one are telling people to hail him or say that he is awesome, but I would certainly want him to do well, very well, because if he does very well then it's good for the club, especially with the massive amount we're gonna dish out for the guy. We just can't afford to let another big transfer go bust, we need him to do well.

 

[SwiftGuyver]

I suppose the goal he scored against Atleti on the final day was also out of character huh?

in a Barca shirt yeah.

but you're right those 2 goals = him being better than Suárez, a guy who scored 31 goals last season, none of them penalties, whilst playing in a weaker team and having missed the first 5 games of the campaign. a guy who has scored 220 career goals in 360 something games whilst Alexis has managed 93 in 380 odd games.

 

[Truthist]

I believe in Lucho and I'm sure he will. A player of his abilities is very likely to succeed everywhere.

'This is not so much the boards fault but Lucho, from reading between the lines he hasn't got a clue what he's trying to do'. What does that even mean? Which lines?

You dont have a bloody clue claiming a professional coach doesn't know what he's trying to do. You just sit there in front of the computer all day but you surely know better than a pro in his daily job...

You may carry on being a blind fan but I'm not easily pleased especially when other positions need addressing immediately. The fact that we're willing to pay over the odds for a loose cannon, desperate to buy Cuadrado to play at RB when he doesn't even play there and embarrassingly begging PSG to sell us an average young defender at an outrageously inflated price simply because he's Brazllian (I imagine), tells you everything you need to know about the thinking of Lucho.

And hey pal, I'm just as entitled to my opinion as you are so don't take it personally if I'm sat behind my pc or phone to be precise giving my two penneth worth which is precisely what you are doing.

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[John Antonio Bilboa]

in a Barca shirt yeah.

but you're right those 2 goals = him being better than Suárez, a guy who scored 31 goals last season, none of them penalties, whilst playing in a weaker team and having missed the first 5 games of the campaign. a guy who has scored 220 career goals in 360 something games whilst Alexis has managed 93 in 380 odd games.

Sanchez is a winger not a striker, his primary objective is to feed the strikers and get a few for himself in the process. Suarez was a regular in Liverpool team that was much improved overall as a unit. Sanchez was signed by pep for is versatility, pace and contribution to the team as a whole. I'm not disputing his individual attributes when compared to Alexis' , I'm saying the cost of obtaining said attributes are not worth parting with upwards of 50mil and one of our best players to boot. If barca's recent transfer history is anything to go by this'll be another shit storm brown and smothering.

 

[DonAK]

You may carry on being a blind fan but I'm not easily pleased especially when other positions need addressing immediately. The fact that we're willing to pay over the odds for a loose cannon, desperate to buy Cuadrado to play at RB when he doesn't even play there and embarrassingly begging PSG to sell us an average young defender at an outrageously inflated price simply because he's Brazllian (I imagine), tells you everything you need to know about the thinking of Lucho.

And hey pal, I'm just as entitled to my opinion as you are so don't take it personally if I'm sat behind my pc or phone to be precise giving my two penneth worth which is precisely what you are doing.

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You're fully entitled to your opinions and views and while I myself find the strange Marquinhos fetish incredibly annoying and how we always fail to adress our priorities, making judgements before pre-season has started, before the team has played, before the coach has made his calls and showed what he is capable of, is extremely premature IMHO and there is nothing about being a fanboy or blind fan about that.

 

[linetty]

You may carry on being a blind fan but I'm not easily pleased especially when other positions need addressing immediately. The fact that we're willing to pay over the odds for a loose cannon, desperate to buy Cuadrado to play at RB when he doesn't even play there and embarrassingly begging PSG to sell us an average young defender at an outrageously inflated price simply because he's Brazllian (I imagine), tells you everything you need to know about the thinking of Lucho.

And hey pal, I'm just as entitled to my opinion as you are so don't take it personally if I'm sat behind my pc or phone to be precise giving my two penneth worth which is precisely what you are doing.

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Apparently the Cuadrado rumours are only press guesses, I doubt there was ever any contact. I think Alves will stay.

The market as a whole is infalted and Marcos is not average, he's very very good for his age. Surely an improvement over Mascherano who can only do a sliding tackle.

It doesnt tell anything about the thinking of Lucho, not every transfer is demanded by him and you dont believe everything the press says.

 

[SwiftGuyver]

Sanchez is a winger not a striker, his primary objective is to feed the strikers and get a few for himself in the process. Suarez was a regular in Liverpool team that was much improved overall as a unit. Sanchez was signed by pep for is versatility, pace and contribution to the team as a whole. I'm not disputing his individual attributes when compared to Alexis' , I'm saying the cost of obtaining said attributes are not worth parting with upwards of 50mil and one of our best players to boot. If barca's recent transfer history is anything to go by this'll be another shit storm brown and smothering.

Alexis could play as a striker though. he will probably be used as one if he moves to Arsenal.

Suárez also feeds other players, he is versatile, has pace and contributes to the team as a whole.

we'll have to agree to disagree because i think the cost is worth it for a player who will provide us with that lethal, cutting edge we have lacked for a couple seasons now. obviously there's a degree of risk involved but fingers crossed it works out well for the good of Barca.

 

[Truthist]

You're fully entitled to your opinions and views and while I myself find the strange Marquinhos fetish incredibly annoying and how we always fail to adress our priorities, making judgements before pre-season has started, before the team has played, before the coach has made his calls and showed what he is capable of, is extremely premature IMHO and there is nothing about being a fanboy or blind fan about that.

Excellent post and I agree. I guess I'm a bit frustrated like many here with the direction the board is going in, seems too Real Madrid-esque Galactico era but I sure hope the priorities are addressed nevertheless.

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[Truthist]

Apparently the Cuadrado rumours are only press guesses, I doubt there was ever any contact. I think Alves will stay.

The market as a whole is infalted and Marcos is not average, he's very very good for his age. Surely an improvement over Mascherano who can only do a sliding tackle.

It doesnt tell anything about the thinking of Lucho, not every transfer is demanded by him and you dont believe everything the press says.

I don't believe everything the press says but when its so persistent there has to be something behind the scenes. We shall see but I hope we can get rid of Alves too, he's not up to the required standard anymore IMHO.

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[Hamzah]

Utter bollocks...Sanchez also has the invaluable ability to come back and defend let's give credit where credit is due and not over hyped the over-hyped

Suarez work rate is fine to be fair. Nobody can question his commitment, he's also a better finisher and dribbler than Alexis.

 

[voodoomaster]

Yeah yeah yeah.....People still ride the high moral horse. Look at our team for F... sake. Busquets, neymar, pedro, masch, alves - not exactly the most fair players in the game. Football today is pure cynicism, thats a fact. You dont win matches if you dont cheat a bit: Faking injuries, talking with the ref, say its your throw in when you know its the oppositions, diving, we see cheating every minute of the game.

So Whats the problem? Is it that we shouldnt add one more cheat to the team and so on......thats obvious a hypocritical statement, because barca and no other team for that matter(and non of you people ever complain about our "normal weekly cheating") do anything about their attitudes on the field. Football is pure cynicism and you except it implicitely every day/week/year. Stop riding the high horse.

The question isnt: Is it moral to buy suarez, its more pragmatic: Is it smart?

We will be the best attacking side in europe, and if the board move their asses and buy some decent defenders we have a fine opportunity to win absolutely everything. Do you want to sit here and complain some seasons or do want to use a lot of money and succeed?