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Xavi Hernández
- Thread starter Messi983
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Be nice
Birdy
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I will not be nice to people who have made me suffer
Joan
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You’re a smart lad, you should’ve seen the writing on the wall: Xavi was out of his depth. Which is not about Flick, who might succeed or fail, but facts.
We brought an amateur from Qatar and now we’re paying for it. Xavi was nowhere near ready to coach Barca, and with his arrogant attitude, he might never get there.
jamrock
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I saw a manager that won us our first league title in 4 years and was a red away from making the CL SF.
All in his first real job at the highest level.
While laying the foundation for future success with the integration of many players from Masia and a few key signings that have contributed from the moment they signed.
Tell me one letter of what I just said is wrong?.
People whine too much about Xavi and is always quick to throw him under the bus or like @Porque loves to do, take little shots.
Without looking at the many positives he brought to the club in his 2.5 seasons here.
Alot of money to miss out on for a club that needs it though, innit. I believe it was also part of our financial projections.
I appreciate the LaLiga, but not getting that WCC windfall is on Xavi's European escapades.
Both can be true.
jamrock
Senior Member
Like Henry said Xavi doesn't get enough credit for laying a lot of the ground work for what is happening today at Barcelona.
Its all summed up in raph, who the entire forum seems to have forgotten played a massive part in US winning the league and was clutch last season as well, even though we didn't win anything.
But if you read the most here, you wouldn't think he was shit for 2 season and flick turn him into a world class player over night.
While the truth is there for everyone to see.
You can say flick is doing a great job.
Without constantly shitting on the man that won us the league for the first time in years.
Its all summed up in raph, who the entire forum seems to have forgotten played a massive part in US winning the league and was clutch last season as well, even though we didn't win anything.
But if you read the most here, you wouldn't think he was shit for 2 season and flick turn him into a world class player over night.
While the truth is there for everyone to see.
You can say flick is doing a great job.
Without constantly shitting on the man that won us the league for the first time in years.
jamrock
Senior Member
When I read that FIFA will he giving 2B in price money yesterday, I was going to post in here, but I decided not to because I knew it would be posted soon enough.
Shit happens, when you are rebuilding.
He fucked up in the E.L
In the CL, not really on him just a series of unfortunate events.
You know like pep had a few at Bayern and city before eventually winning the CL, and all here readily bring that up, but Xavi had to be perfect during a difficult rebuild.
The laporta isn't sweating it, TBH I don't know why every mini Financial director here is, when we've seen most here don't understand what they are talking about with regards to the clubs finances.
That's last bit isn't a shot at you, just saying
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Messi983
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And keeping Cubarsi. Without Xavi he would be playing for City now.
And giving a chance to Yamal. Without Xavi Lamine would be stagnating under Sanchez in BA while Bumsi would play Kim Jun Jent.
More seriously, Xavi is not perfect but he did a lot more good than bad. He left the club in a much better state than when he arrived.
But people only remember his mistakes. He also got a lot of shit for things that I generally never cared about in my life like press conferences.
I also think he'll do great in another club where he won't be as emotionally invested.
JamDav1982
Senior Member
It is hardly some huge achievement that the club almost mishandeled Cubarsi to the point no one.. Xavi included.. had spoken to him about his future before they realised he was likely to leave to City.
They managed to turn that around just in time and should have been expected first team coach and others talked to him long before they did and lay out plan for him. It is a farce they almost lost him as hadnt done that earlier if anything.
Nonsense would Lamine be anywhere else under other coaches. That is just ignorance to how good he is.
Of course the team should be in a better place.. he arrived to a club with a core of young players in team and coming from La Masia that is best in close to 30 years and was given more money to spend than years before it and Flick has had since.
Same team he was telling fans will struggle to compete with Real mind you and not to expect too much. While players like Raphinha were pissed off with him.. players like Pedri has made numerous comments about how much better training is for him.. while he without saying it will 100% know Flick is playing him deeper and way that suits him in way Xavi rarely did.
Xavi was ok and had to go. Lost too much money from failures in europe and was just far too negative in his excuses and tactics had started to go that way too often also.
He didnt even seem mentally all there at times. Pressure was too much.. and boy didnt he like to tell everyone about it.
They managed to turn that around just in time and should have been expected first team coach and others talked to him long before they did and lay out plan for him. It is a farce they almost lost him as hadnt done that earlier if anything.
Nonsense would Lamine be anywhere else under other coaches. That is just ignorance to how good he is.
Of course the team should be in a better place.. he arrived to a club with a core of young players in team and coming from La Masia that is best in close to 30 years and was given more money to spend than years before it and Flick has had since.
Same team he was telling fans will struggle to compete with Real mind you and not to expect too much. While players like Raphinha were pissed off with him.. players like Pedri has made numerous comments about how much better training is for him.. while he without saying it will 100% know Flick is playing him deeper and way that suits him in way Xavi rarely did.
Xavi was ok and had to go. Lost too much money from failures in europe and was just far too negative in his excuses and tactics had started to go that way too often also.
He didnt even seem mentally all there at times. Pressure was too much.. and boy didnt he like to tell everyone about it.
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jamrock
Senior Member
Yea that's sums up my view on his time here, he left the club is a significantly better place than he found it and for me that's a big positive.
Yes he made mistakes, it was his first job at the club he loves.
But
league title.
Promoting
Cubarsi
Yamal
Balde (not sure if he promoted him, but definitely bench alba for him, pretty sure he did though).
Signings like
Kounde
Raph.
That's 5 of our current starting XI, not even including Martinez that fans constantly whined about why are we paying him last season.
We actually started to play Madrid eveningly while he was manager, people remember the 0-4, but not the 4-0 or 3-1 in their stadium, I think he ended with a winning record against atleti and Madrid, all comps.
Football wasn't the most exciting, but that list of positives far outweighs that.
JamDav1982
Senior Member
Positives and negatives... but the negatives had built to point he had to go.
Can say that and appreciate winning the league title.
Same Yamal some folk thought 'looked shite' and same Cubarsi that Faye was better than... aye Xavi was right on them.
Yes players from his time still there.. he also won league with a team majority made up of players there before him.. that argument can work both ways.
Ask Raph or Pedri who is the better coach for them...
Again.. that current starting team is the same team Xavi whinged about fans expectations being too high for.
Did well to win the league.. gets credit.
Awful in cups and Europe to point club lost out on well over 100m most likely let alone trying to compete on footballing side.
Paid price for his backroom team and moaning most likely and he lost plot a bit it looked like.
Can say that and appreciate winning the league title.
Same Yamal some folk thought 'looked shite' and same Cubarsi that Faye was better than... aye Xavi was right on them.
Yes players from his time still there.. he also won league with a team majority made up of players there before him.. that argument can work both ways.
Ask Raph or Pedri who is the better coach for them...
Again.. that current starting team is the same team Xavi whinged about fans expectations being too high for.
Did well to win the league.. gets credit.
Awful in cups and Europe to point club lost out on well over 100m most likely let alone trying to compete on footballing side.
Paid price for his backroom team and moaning most likely and he lost plot a bit it looked like.
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jamrock
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You'll never stop repeating that fuckery look shit will yah.
Such virgin behavior.
You were right about cubarsi though, even though none said he wasn't good enough, just question his physically readiness.
Even a retarded clock is right twice per day.
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