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iniestaGOAT

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They are better than the likes of Rayo, Mallorca or Athletic Bilbao who are in the top 10 of La Liga.

Real Madrid is not an accurate measuring stick. Real Madrid always step up in the CL. They've dominated that competition of over recent history even in campaigns where most people wouldn't event consider them as a favourite.


How do you know they are better than those teams?

Real Madrid is a la Liga team and they get beat by us and struggle vs mid table la Liga teams that's why they are 8 points behind us.

Do real Madrid not care about winning la Liga? I don't think so. They simply struggle vs mid table teams cause it's better than you think they are
 

Respekt_III

Anti-everything
Lucky 1-0 wins
Relying on individual brilliance
Poor recruitment
Sepnding 200m on players that don't fit
Poor tactical planning in large number of games
Poor in game management

Ole's.. Sorry I meant xavi's at the wheel
 
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Devils

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How do you know they are better than those teams?

Real Madrid is a la Liga team and they get beat by us and struggle vs mid table la Liga teams that's why they are 8 points behind us.

Do real Madrid not care about winning la Liga? I don't think so. They simply struggle vs mid table teams cause it's better than you think they are

Because if you compare the squad quality of a team like Leicester or Wolves, it's pretty easy to see they are far superior to a team like Rayo Vallecano or Mallorca.

Real Madrid are an overall better team than Barcelona, in the same way that Manchester City are a better team than Arsenal, their league positions are mainly due to consistency of performances. Barca have struggled too in the league, they've just managed to grind out wins better than Real Madrid have. That might be lauded as a 'testament of champions' but it's not a testament of league quality, of which La Liga is terrible at the moment.
 

Gari

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The coach is always responsible for the quality of the game. This is his job. He must select the players he needs, choose the appropriate tactics. Does Laporta forbid him to put someone on the bench? No. Xavi himself said that he learned to tell the players no. We had a good defense, but the attack disappeared. How can you win without goals? Only 1:0. That's how we win.
 

serghei

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Even if EPL is better than La Liga, this doesn't make La Liga terrible. Sociedad won the EL group with United btw. Celta was a horrible miss away from knocking them out too years ago.
 

jamrock

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Funny how times changes expectations.

When we were winning the league year after year. the league was meh ... but now it's enough ..

The current level of LL is clear to everyone in the world = SHIT

Bar RM no team is Europe ready

Fans we'll be back to that late 90's mentality : yes we are shit everywhere in Europe but at least we did beat MR. :hooray:

Not for 1 second has the league ever been meh.

Not in France, Germany, Holland, Italy, England
No where.

Only a straight up idiot thinks that, especially after going 3 years without winning it.

In situations where we are close to touching the cup & lose It hurts because we know we had the ability to win it, like under Valverde.

But have 0 shot at doing that now. Only a Riri is gonna be update that we didn't make it to the round of 16, QF if we are lucky.

Oh fuck you guys, you're losers, you failed not not win the CL, da fuq.
 

Windhook

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Didn't bother to read anything Barca related posts/news and I'm sure it's mostly negative suicidal, let's bring in Tuchel shit. Zidane/Pep or death!:lol:

I'm proud of the boys. We played as equal in two games against likely to be the next PL champion club. Barca - Man Utd was worthy of being EL final given their current form this year. Ironically it happened at the earliest stage of knockouts.
 

BBZ8800

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I prefer to focus on the bright side. Winning the title just one year into the new project with Xavi against this Madrid is excellent, and above expectations. And a sign that the team is developing at a fast rate.

Not that we play a classical Barca football, but we have agreed for years that Barca's style is the best against weak teams = for league titles.

For the last 20-ish years, we are just more consistent in beating Gironas and Getafes, while RM is better against European teams.

The math always seems something like:
1. Out of 10 matches vs Getafe:
-- Barca will have 8 wins
-- RM will have 7 wins
2. Out of 10 wins vs Bayern and Liverpool:
-- Barca will have 2-3 wins and a few 0:4 defeats
-- RM will have 6 wins, without any 0:4 defeats

So, what Xavi is doing is nothing spectacular.
He just went back to our winning ways against horribly bad bottom table La Liga teams, who are bankrupt and filled with average short and technical players from Spain and South America.

These teams aren't fast, strong.
They are just a bunch of Wallmart versions of Barca/technical football.
Playing against them is like playing vs Barca B or C team.

But whenever something different comes (than Spanish light technical football) = we are lost.
For years Messi was saving our asses in Europe, but even then, for a decade, we all had a feeling that something is just off.
We often blamed Raki, Vidal, EV, Suarez, Alba, Busi, all amigos.
But no matter which player or a coach we fired, we were always as equally as bad vs European teams.

While with RM, no matter who is their coach, or how many new Camavingas and Tchous they buy, they always seem to have a better answer for European opponents.

Winning La Liga was never about beating the best teams but about making as few mistakes as possible vs bottom table teams.
The one who finds a way to consistently beat teams worse than you = is the champion.
Unlike in Europe, where you don't play vs minows but against equal teams where each opponent has a different set of strengths and tactics and you need more variety.

So, La Liga is worse than ever and bankrupt.
And Xavi has found a way to beat these bankrupt, not too physical teams.
And then you have players like Pedri and Gavi who thrive vs Gironas, but look like ghosts in Europe.
What is the most likely answer?
 
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