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JamDav1982

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No.

Arsenal were 5th last season, and are storming the league this season. Lost vs Tottenham 0-3. Young teams with passionate managers develop at a fast rate. This is what happened to Arsenal, Barca, Napoli. That is why they are dominating the top 3 leagues this season in a very clear manner.

Last season we trashed Napoli 4-2.

What relevance does any of that have?
 

JamDav1982

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So you are claiming Spurs were 'tiers' above Barca a few months ago and you were not wrong then but right and all that has happened is Barca have over taken them....

Jeepers that is worse than thought.

Impossible for you to be wrong with those rules.

Spurs absolutely did not have a better squad when you claimed they did and has been proven since.

IF Real go out of Europe and Barca win treble then Real still have strongest squad?
 

serghei

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So you are claiming Spurs were 'tiers' above Barca a few months ago and you were not wrong then but right and all that has happened is Barca have over taken them....

Jeepers that is worse than thought.

Impossible for you to be wrong with those rules.

Exactly right. Not "tiers above", but Spurs were better than Barca last season, and now Barca went above them.
 

JamDav1982

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Exactly right. Not "tiers above", but Spurs were better than Barca last season, and now Barca went above them.

You made this claim this season and when draw had been made for EL v United.

Nice mental gymnastics to make out you were right but Barca got better though.....

No one in their right mind though Spurs had better squad at time you claimed it.

You were wrong simple as that.
 

Horatio

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serghei definitely feeling brash since that last clasico win. Should bring up how Koeman would have gotten us relegated if he stayed on last season any time now.
 

serghei

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serghei definitely feeling brash since that last clasico win. Should bring up how Koeman would have gotten us relegated if he stayed on last season any time now.

We're winning titles mate, and not the minor ones. Already. Expected some tophyless seasons tbh, but this is much better.
 

JamDav1982

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We're winning titles mate, and not the minor ones. Already. Expected some tophyless seasons tbh, but this is much better.

Of ourse you did as you think Real are miles ahead of Barca and argue that near enough every time as to have excuses if Barca dont win.

Same in Europe.

Barca were close to Real last season. Was never a huge gap as you made out and also Barca were never worse than Atletico etc either.

The base of players Barca is/was much better than you let on.
 

Givenchy

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We're winning titles mate, and not the minor ones. Already. Expected some tophyless seasons tbh, but this is much better.

Since you are very much pro-Xavi (not a dig at you), how would you feel if we exit the CL group stages again next season? Is that end of the road for him or is winning La Liga enough? I ask because I realize winning the league is better than qualifying from the group stages just to exit in the round of 16 but we need to see improvements in Europe.

Europa league 3 seasons in a row is embarrassing for a club like Barca and nobody is going to convince me the calibre of players we have shouldn't be playing CL football.

I would say Xavi has done an okay job this season. I'm disappointed in the style (or lack thereof) and entertainment in most of our matches but a league win is a league win.
 

JamDav1982

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Xavi would find it very hard to survive another early CL group exit but as Barcelona shouls be seeded it should be more straightforward.
 

jairzinho

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Maybe we'll be third time lucky in Europe with Xavi next season. First thing is to avoid another group of death scenario.
 

Andresito

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Another group exit is unacceptable, especially if we finish 1st in Liga.

If we draw Bayern/City then at least we should be able to come second. We looked very good against Bayern away in the first half, just need to be more composed and take the few chances we create. So over two games against them we need at least 1-3 points, the latter if we want to be seen as a serious threat.

Also there isn't a team in pot 3/4 that should beat us over two games. Not now. Have a feeling we're going to look a lot more mature next season in Europe, and not these mental midgets where playing in CL looks like a totally different sport.
 
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