Yeah but take Vini out of that Madrid attack and it suddenly looks rather ordinary. Like ours without Dembele.
Half of what they want to do offensively would crumble.
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Yeah but take Vini out of that Madrid attack and it suddenly looks rather ordinary. Like ours without Dembele.
Half of what they want to do offensively would crumble.
JamDav1982
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Courtois has not been the best GK in the world this season at all. Let alone 'by a distance'
Last season you couldnt stop pointing to save % in La Liga etc... now? Doesnt matter just keep saying he is by far the best.
He was last season and wasnt the season before.
Vini is another one... if they get put out by City he hasnt had that great a season overall to be called up there with Mbappe. Barely done anything v better teams in La Liga and was nothing great at WC.
Mbappe is far ahead of him unless has that huge end to season.
Fair enough if Real win CL with those two being crucial then maybe but if they dont Courtois/Vini are not the players made out this season.
serghei
Senior Member
And Benzema. Last time I checked he's the holder of the Ballon d'Or. Didn't he score a hattrick vs us recently?
JamDav1982
Senior Member
While Messi will win the one relevant to the current season and he is a negative and not needed at Barca.
Its a funny old world.
If we are using current balondor Lewa is better player than Vini as are Salah, Mane and Mbappe all better wide players.
Its a funny old world.
If we are using current balondor Lewa is better player than Vini as are Salah, Mane and Mbappe all better wide players.
serghei
Senior Member
No amount of twisting arguments will change the fact that Madrid have a much superior team to Barca. It's common sense. We managed to compensate for the difference in quality in La Liga with focus and workrate, but in CL all teams are focused and intense, so you need more quality in the team.
I told you months ago. Another 200m or so are needed to invest in the squad on 3-4 top class signings to compete in CL. Great ones, not Ferret types.
As it stands, most likely is Barca get past groups and get picked out by the elite teams in QF at the latest next season.
I told you months ago. Another 200m or so are needed to invest in the squad on 3-4 top class signings to compete in CL. Great ones, not Ferret types.
As it stands, most likely is Barca get past groups and get picked out by the elite teams in QF at the latest next season.
JamDav1982
Senior Member
No they dont.
You were wrong about that at start of season and doubling down on it.
'Barca need years and hundreds of millions to compete with this squad'.
You were wrong.
Great argument for Xavi... Barca beat a Real side that is better but couldnt concentrate enough and couldnt be arsed to show their quality.. for 'reasons'.
serghei
Senior Member
They do lol.
JamDav1982
Senior Member
Nah they dont.
You claimed needed that to win any trophies.
Wrong and proven so.
So tell us why this great Real side lost league to this injury ravaged Barca side....
serghei
Senior Member
This season is not the endgame lol. Competing is also about CL. Lack of quality in the squad cost a lot this season in CL.
JamDav1982
Senior Member
Back to CL counting again and not league as its Real... nice.
You claimed Barca wouldnt win trophies for yeara against Real who are best in world.
Wrong.
What would it have taken for Barca to show as better than Real this season?
JamDav1982
Senior Member
Bullshit again.
Nah isnt
You are the one that talks constant bullshit.
Lets revist Messi again as clearest example.
On Barca ve Real..
Serghie:
Real will win league as they are better than Barca by 100s of millions worth of talent. Barca have no chance for years.
Barca win league..
Real still better anyway.
Well that's half my point. Madrid have Benzema, we have Lewandowski. Either of these go down and there is no replacement either. We beat Madrid last year 4-0 half because Madrid were toothless without him.
The squads are very comparable, only that our rotation options are not performing and there's are to an extent.
We're walking the league, there walking the CL. Difference in the teams (discounting injury timings) is the managers experience in knockout tournaments.
serghei
Senior Member
They have clearly better squad and also no injuries to key players like Vinicus. Makes a whole lot of differrence. If Dembele would be fit all season like Vinicius, and Vini injured all the time in the most important games like Dembele is... things could have been different.
You can't ignore context, because context defines a situation you're facing.
JamDav1982
Senior Member
They dont have a clearly better squad at all.
Barca beat them comfortably in league table with those same injuries.
No injuries to key players is a different argument.
Why couldnt fit all season Vini do more to help them win league?
Barca beat them comfortably in league table with those same injuries.
No injuries to key players is a different argument.
Why couldnt fit all season Vini do more to help them win league?
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