Zinedine Zidane

[NKMaribor]

LOL Apologist show becoming more and more cringe

According to this logic, Pep after the best Barca team and generation of all times, should have stayed at home for ever, because 'what motivation' right? Subpar jobs all of them compared to the Barca job.
Personal reasons as well. Ancelotti would have left the job after Milan, etc. Tons of examples...
Now, if this narrative was even 1% true, all great coaches would have quitted the job relatively young

Pep`s stint at Barcelona ended with losing domestic title vs. Madrid, while in Cl being beaten by Chelsea. He cited tiredness and being in Barca for 4 seasons what he felt was "eternity". As result he took a year off, and later returned coaching Bayern. Zidane meanwhile was coaching RM - a job that i rate higher than Barca, and did the unprecedented.

People have different motivations. Also, football landscape is constantly changing. Post Heyneckess Bayern was absolutely stellar. Easiest job possible. Petro - dollars in Premiership another top tier destination. Nothing sub-par about it. Clearly Zidane wants that NT job. Meanwhile, he enjoys life. Stellar.

It's obvious that what drives coaches is the challenge-> new club, new league, new culture, desire to prove yourself at another environment, to put more trophies in your resume, to leave a legacy ETC ETC
Think about Zidane in particular: so many people, including me, think he is a fraud and rode huge amount of luck/black magic to win those CLs. Why doesn't he want to prove people wrong about it?

Challenge is only one aspect among others. Besides, you don`t need to venture to another country, club, etc... to experience "challenge". Ferguson, did not have the need to go beyond United - easiest example.

As for Zidane. The answer is easy actually, especially in case of Cule base which represents 90% of such rhetoric. If he did the same with Barca, you would be praising him. While the rest, it comes down to people simply hate the best. Tons of people also contest Guardiola, with the same stupid arguments as you are displaying.

When he left RM the 1st time, he was among the hottest names in Europe for the vacant jobs at top teams.
Now, you rarely see his name mentioned or rumoured for those jobs. He has himself belittled his fame so much by just preferring to sit at his home for 3 years, rather than take the minimal necessary risk of being exposed at the highest level.
Like a true coward indeed!

Your entire notion rests on false assumption. That being a coward. He does not need to prove himself anymore to anybody, let alone a zealot on Barcaforum who operates with terms such as "voodoo magic / luck".

I can already see Zidane trembling in the corner, while being showered with the idea of training Mbappe and being showered with Petro - dollars. lol.

'I would only take X job' is a line you would only hear from entitled pricks like Xavi and Zidane, who think that somehow the world owes them privileges and they don't have to prove themselves like normal people have to

Or entitled nobodies who think somebody needs to prove themselves to them. Funny isnt it.

PS: Obviously, what he did as a player has nothing to do with his attitude as a coach

It implies character. Also, it heavily impacts motivations and goals. But hey. The only thing remains for you to pull out the lizard people, and your story will be complete.

 

[Windhook]

Bayern Munich, according to Marca, are interested in Zidane.

 

[Horatio]

Bayern Munich, according to Marca, are interested in Zidane.

He's going to turn down. I promise you.

 

[DonAK]

He’s just going to wait Deschamps out even if it takes until after 2026.

 

[Windhook]

OTD

 

[Maradona37]

Not to overly praise a Real Madrid legend on a Barcelona forum, but he was one of my footballing heroes as a child.

I have gone off him a bit since managing Real Madrid and licking Cristiano Ronaldo's arsehole a bit much, but he remains one of the best midfielders/attacking midfielders I have ever seen.

The thing about Zidane is everything he did looked so effortless and at ease (unlike for example C Ronaldo). He never looked like he was trying ultra-hard, like many of today's athletes - his game was pure poetry - vision, high football IQ, great passing, producing genius moments. He had that ability to always look like he always had so much time and space and was playing a different game to most others on the pitch, something all the greats have - Messi has it too.

He was an absolute genius. Until Messi came along, Zidane and R9 (and Ronaldinho too maybe) were the best players I had watched since I had just about been old enough to watch the final part of Maradona's career.

There's a line of thought these days that Zidane was overrated or gets too much credit. While it's true that he coasted in a lot of run of the mill games, and the Galacticos should have won more than they did, he was the man for the big occasion. I think those who think he's very overrated probably prize stats and the sheer science of winning over watching a true artist at work. He won't get you 50 goals a season like prime C Ronaldo, but he's more talented and far more fun to watch. Guys like him are what football is all about.

He'd a fraud of a manager, though.

 

[vegitot]

People remember more of Zidane best moments than his average/worst. He was inconsitent at club level. That's why he won total of 3 league tittle with wealthy, strong teams like Juventus and RM. But usually showed up for his country.

Zidane is an artist though. I think now only Pedri has that trait.

 

[Maradona37]

People remember more of Zidane best moments than his average/worst. He was inconsitent at club level. That's why he won total of 3 league tittle with wealthy, strong teams like Juventus and RM. But usually showed up for his country.

Zidane is an artist though. I think now only Pedri has that trait.

Yeah I said that.

I believe that football is beauty/art, and that teams that win (or even don't win) with style and great football are superior and worth more than teams who win playing bollocks football. That's why Zidane embodies a lot of why I love football, even though other players might have been more successful at club level.

This carries over to my own football playing. I obviously want to win too, but at my much lower level, I like to entertain spectators too (even though I am much older now).

I love players like Zidane, R9, Ronaldinho, Platini, Hagi, Xavi, Messi, Stoitchkov, Romario, Baggio, Totti, Redondo, Del Piero, Iniesta, Modric, Rivaldo, Zico etc

Basically players who make you wanna pay the entrance fee to a stadium.

 

[Messigician]

This bum hasn’t retired yet?

 

[Birdy]

@eurofootcom


Zinedine Zidane has gone 1,306 days without managing a team. Man United, Juventus, PSG & Bayern have knocked on his door several times in recent years... But Zidane always answers the same: "No, thank you.", reports
@marca
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What's up @El Gato ?
Have you taken your huge L yet on this dude?

The biggest coward in the history of coaching...
Avoiding any job that could get him exposed.
Waiting to hide in the French NT with a generational squad pool

 

[DonAK]

How is he a coward?

One of the greatest footballers of all-time. Has an impeccable resume as a manager. Has lots of money and seemingly travels around the world with his wife most of the year and enjoys life.

He can handpick a job if he wants, and the only jobs he's interested in seem to be the one of the French NT and maybe Real Madrid again.

How does that make him a coward?

 

[Birdy]

How is he a coward?

One of the greatest footballers of all-time. Has an impeccable resume as a manager. Has lots of money and seemingly travels around the world with his wife most of the year and enjoys life.

He can handpick a job if he wants, and the only jobs he's interested in seem to be the one of the French NT and maybe Real Madrid again.

How does that make him a coward?

Do you know any coach who is 'interested' in only 1 club job and 1 NT job?
Maybe only Xavi and Zidane fill that list

There is a reason why ALL TOP coaches try themselves out in different environments and prove themselves there.
Even SAF who stayed so many years at UTD had successes before (at Aberdeen) that brought him to UTD in the first place.

Zizou is simply a coward who does not want to get exposed, and all this cowardice is masked in the 'I am only interested in 2 job' ridiculous excuse
He built a legacy (3 CLs) he never deserved given his coaching abilities, and is smart enough to realize that all that will collapse once he gets an even minimally challenging job, let alone the tough ones
He prefers to hide in the NT with the best generational squad, and have very % chances of winning a WC or Euro

 

[khaled_a_d]

Zidane has nothing to prove at all, and anyone thinking otherwise is living in their own bubble.

He is an all timer, and earned the right to handpick whatever job he wants, or just to retire from coaching, same way Crujif did at the same age.

 

[Windhook]

I saw no cowardice in Johan Cruyff not managing a club after 1996 when he was sacked. He was at his prime around the age of 50. Principles.

Same goes for Zidane. My assumption is same as Cruyff, he's fed up with the stress of expectations. Zidane has nothing to prove to anybody.

 

[Birdy]

Zidane has nothing to prove at all, and anyone thinking otherwise is living in their own bubble.

He is an all timer, and earned the right to handpick whatever job he wants, or just to retire from coaching, same way Crujif did at the same age.

That's why Cruyff is never in the same discussion with Pep SAF Ancelotti and the rest
Because he did only 1 job only 1 period

Of course Cruyff built a legacy not on titles only, but primarily on the total football he taught.
If he did not have that, and had only the titles, he would be way lower

PS:
Cruyff example does not change the rule:
all coaches that respect themselves are hungry and ambitious and want to prove themselves time and time again.
Imagine Pep if he had retired in 2012.
His legacy would have been 100 times smaller than it is today
He had the balls and the ambition to move out of his safe space and kept winning and proving himself