Temptation
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Did this happen in the same dreamland where your mates didn't ditch Barca for PSG and stayed loyal to Barca?
Zinedine Zidane
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I don't care about other users. The only topic here is you licking Madrid ass while pretending to be Liverpool fan.Did this happen in the same dreamland where your mates didn't ditch Barca for PSG and stayed loyal to Barca?
Temptation
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Changing the topic? Show me where I celebrated RM beating us or did anything close to that. Go on.
🤡The topic is still the same. You lick RM ass while pretending to be a Liverpool fan.Changing the topic? Show me where I celebrated RM beating us or did anything close to that. Go on.
But let's not waste this thread here. Can we go back and discuss about the time Zidane in his prime finished 7th in Serie A and got whacked by Celta Vigo in Uefa cup group stage?
jamrock
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Yes big game clutchness is important, but whenever we talk about the greatest ever, which is how many describe him, they also combine that with game to game consistent.
Jordon is the goat not just because of the 6 finals, but because he did that, while also dropping 30 on a wet cold night in stoke City.
Zidane fanboys is always quick to try and done play that part or make up nonsense to prove he was game to game consistent.
He wasn't, which is why while he's one of the best, he's one of the most overrated.
To compare to come the likes of modric, Xavi, iniesta is just down right disrespectful to those players.
To put in any top 5-10 with names like messi, cryuff, is down right stupid.
Jordon is the goat not just because of the 6 finals, but because he did that, while also dropping 30 on a wet cold night in stoke City.
Zidane fanboys is always quick to try and done play that part or make up nonsense to prove he was game to game consistent.
He wasn't, which is why while he's one of the best, he's one of the most overrated.
To compare to come the likes of modric, Xavi, iniesta is just down right disrespectful to those players.
To put in any top 5-10 with names like messi, cryuff, is down right stupid.
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Fati_Future_BallonDor
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Did this happen in the same dreamland where your mates didn't ditch Barca for PSG and stayed loyal to Barca?
we will never forget these rats!
TheStig
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ZZ's trophy cabinet is laughable compared to Xavi, Iniesta and Modrić. If he was so amazing in matches he should have more trophies right?
There is no argument why ZZ had a better career then them except nonsense like aura, elegancy and similar. The main thing is that those three played in Messi/CR7 era and ZZ didn't.
Zidane is of course a legend and one of best ever in his position but to say he is better than the likes of Xavi, Iniesta or Modric is just ridiculous. Well, Modric may not be as dominant as these three but his longevity is just insane.
The only reason Zidane is rated higher than Xavi or Iniesta in media is because of Ballon Dor. But then if Zidane played in Messi - Cronaldo era he would have none.
MonteCuler
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Not just French, European football giants tend to push the popularity of their great footballers to the very limits. So that even those people that have absolutely nothing to do with nor follow football know who they are. This was the case with Zizou, with Beckham and now likes of Mbappe, Bellingham.
Those are all great footballers, gifted with enormous talent indeed - but those that are not really into football think Zizou is the greatest, think Zizou can do anything, he's unstoppable. This popular opinion translates to football world as well because that's usually how it goes, people follow the mainstream opinion and don't really want nor care to judge his abilities by themselves. When great footballers do great things, on the big stage especially then these opinions tend to blow up. Like when Zidane had a masterclass against Brazil, like when Mbappe scored a hattrick against Argentina. League games or consistency, performances against some small clubs - very few, on a general scale, really care about that.
That's why Zidane indeed is slightly overrated, naturally considering where he comes from. Imagine if Savicevic was from France or England, how highly he would be rated. He had his moments of legend but he was an inconsistent footballer, unstoppable when he felt like it but not really otherwise. He would still be pushed to enormous heights because of his divine talent and great achievements in the western media.
Those are all great footballers, gifted with enormous talent indeed - but those that are not really into football think Zizou is the greatest, think Zizou can do anything, he's unstoppable. This popular opinion translates to football world as well because that's usually how it goes, people follow the mainstream opinion and don't really want nor care to judge his abilities by themselves. When great footballers do great things, on the big stage especially then these opinions tend to blow up. Like when Zidane had a masterclass against Brazil, like when Mbappe scored a hattrick against Argentina. League games or consistency, performances against some small clubs - very few, on a general scale, really care about that.
That's why Zidane indeed is slightly overrated, naturally considering where he comes from. Imagine if Savicevic was from France or England, how highly he would be rated. He had his moments of legend but he was an inconsistent footballer, unstoppable when he felt like it but not really otherwise. He would still be pushed to enormous heights because of his divine talent and great achievements in the western media.
jamrock
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Of Midfielders we've all seen play on a regular basis he's top 5. Could be lower if we go further back, but I'll keep it in modern football, who we aren't replying on memory berries.
Xavi
Iniesta
Modric
Kroos.
Zidane.
If someone wants to put him 4th i wouldn't be mad it at.
Xavi
Iniesta
Modric
Kroos.
Zidane.
If someone wants to put him 4th i wouldn't be mad it at.
DonAK
President of FC Barcelona
Barca turned PSG turned Miami turned Argentina fans talking about watching people or teams play is hilarious.
Also, the R9 posts were about the "could have been" and "what if" arguments. No one ever doubted his talent, ability or peak performances.
There's no correlation. You're just mad now because I pointed out that you lack football knowledge.
In any case it's not unusual for fans to root for their greatest player of all-time when he plays for his National Team or for another club as long as it's not against their own team.
What's your excuse? You root for Mourinho who shit talked Liverpool constantly. You root for Lewandowski like he's your dad without him ever having played for Liverpool. You root hard for Cristiano Ronaldo who played for Liverpool's arch rivals.
You're also Indian and neither of these guys are from your country either, and you cannot stop posting on a Barcelona and a Man Utd forum all the time.
KingLeo10
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Tempt was probably going to respond but since you mentioned that he's Indian, it's gonna be no response
Maradona37
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Normally I agree with most of you guys on everything, but I watched peak Zidane and he was sensational. I do believe he is one of the greatest players ever/ It could be nostalgia goggles as I watched with awe the night in summer 1998 as an impressionable just turned 16-year-old, as he scored two headers in the World Cup Final in Saint-Denis, and also saw his other big moments live (one of the main ones being the volley at Hampden fewer than 10 miles from my house).
It's true that he was less consistent over a season in small games than Xavi, Modric and Iniesta. However, I feel that has been repeated so much that people go over the top, as if he coasted and couldn't be arsed in the majority of games in his career. Plus you have to remember Zidane brilliance cannot be measured in his output (though neither can the other three),
I despise him as a coach for bringing three CLs to Real Madrid, but as a player he was one of my childhood idols. So maybe I am biased. But he was supremely talented.
I do think R9 was better than him overall as a player in his peak, and I have sympathy for any argument that claims Xavi, Modric and Iniesta were more consistent, important players. They're also geniuses. But I don't know, Zidane did things with a ball that absolutely took my breath away.
It's true that he was less consistent over a season in small games than Xavi, Modric and Iniesta. However, I feel that has been repeated so much that people go over the top, as if he coasted and couldn't be arsed in the majority of games in his career. Plus you have to remember Zidane brilliance cannot be measured in his output (though neither can the other three),
I despise him as a coach for bringing three CLs to Real Madrid, but as a player he was one of my childhood idols. So maybe I am biased. But he was supremely talented.
I do think R9 was better than him overall as a player in his peak, and I have sympathy for any argument that claims Xavi, Modric and Iniesta were more consistent, important players. They're also geniuses. But I don't know, Zidane did things with a ball that absolutely took my breath away.
Maradona37
Well-known member
Gave you a like because while I agree with some stuff and disagree with others, it's an intelligent and well-though out opinion.
Bold is true, or Stojkovic, Hagi, Stoitchkov even. Plus if these guys were from big countries they wouldn't have had to 'adapt' by moving to big leagues.
I always feel that is a highly overlooked aspect of football - players born in big football nations with massive resources don't have to move as children, they are fast-tracked into elite academies. Promising kids in smaller nations, such as the Slavic as you imply, or even South American nations, have to 'prove themselves' before they get to go to a big European league.
Look at Salah. I know he was at Chelsea before and it didn't work out for him (probably young and trying to adapt to a new culture), but he went to Liverpool at 25 and blew up as a world-class player. I bet if he was Scouse like Gerrard he'd have come through their academy and been a star since he was 18.
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