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people give him too much flack for his personality, he's immature but he's no egomaniac, he actually seems quite likeable and laidback. and the guy's as committed as any player on the pitch.

Do you just ignore the fact Xavi and Iniesta won everything on the national level for years? Last I checked Messi played for Argentina. Rijkaard was just a mediocre coach who failed most of his jobs and wasted a talented Barca side, 06-08 should've been successful years as well.

meh, for how completely lazy he was without the ball he needed to do more. a couple good passes in the first half was not enough. basically gave up in the end.

I think he'll get another season.

lol start the midfield that couldn't even control the game at Home vs Sociedad? and drop your best midfielder?

that would have way more to do with the rest of the team, Messi didn't get one good look at goal yesterday.

It's a bit weird you'd look through someone's post history but okay.

Can you not read? I said he's not a top midfielder right now, as the post above claimed he was. They were all better at 22 btw.

He's by no means a top midfielder, you can think he can compete with the likes of De Bruyne and Bernado Silva? No chance. He's a bare bones version of Thiago, people are overhyping because for he can play a bit of football.

This guy is so limited, just a keep ball machine.

Mandzukic is utter shit, he lost his place to the corpse of Fernando Torres when he was in Spain. And that was supposed to be his prime.

Nah, what was needed was a genuine world class central midfielder, like Thiago, De Bruyne, Kroos, something around that level. The midfield is still weak no matters how many Vidal Rabiot Arthur players they stockpile and has problems vs teams that actually try to play, Betis was a good example...

Arthur is hardly a starter, and he isn't exactly having an outstanding season. Just okay.

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He was never a great dribbler, he relies on speed and space as his touch isn't very good. Germany is more of a high pressing counter-attack league so he is probably more comfortable there.

why do people here demand him to start, he played on the right and he's still so useless

Mbappe is years ahead of Dembele and almost impossible to contain.

you guys have some low standards, he's a complete joke for a 100m signing.

overrated, can't pass between the lines, doesn't position himself so great for the man on the ball, ball is definitely not stuck to his foot like Xavi despite what people say. just a decent player...

I don't think Valverde ever rated him, he didn't play in the big games last season or the two biggest games this year. Just given chances in the easy games and besides a few good moments he's a huge liability, just fumbles the ball over and over..