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Yes la liga has fallen a long way recently but wheres the proof the bottom teams are worse than the the other leagues bar the premier league. Actually recently lower teams in la liga are making the league look good. The like of getafe, granada and villareal are doing ok

You and others seem to count arsenal and spurs as teams who challenge for the title every year. In reality they are in england what sevilla are and valencia were in spain

He is not a xavi type player. Not even sure how good he is at one touch football because he likes to take a touch and run with the ball so much. Too much alot of the time. Not too sure about his awareness for a first time pass either. He would certainly suit a counter attacking team

You do realise messi does press just not like a madman. He would have plenty of rest time in between presses in that city team

Well I did say almost. But that was just bad refereeing and I don't think tackles like that were being committed on Ronaldo every game. Messi used to get some pretty bad tackles that weren't punished

A team like city who keep the ball 70 percent of the time against nearly all teams in the league is perfect for messi

Well they say you should always improve the team after winning and they do need an attacker. Gundogan isn't going to keep up those scoring levels every year. Messi is free and I doubt he will be looking for anything near what he is getting now.

Without those knee problems he probably would've being getting close to messi and Ronaldo numbers in serie a like he did in la liga

Shit ya I thought he did one season. He did score mid 20s in 2 seasons after knee problems and scored over 30 in a season for barca when fully fit

I think its a bit of a myth that defenders got a away with alot more. They did a bit but not as much as people think. Refs constantly blew their whistle back in the day. It was actually a more stop start game back then and even more so before that.Ronaldo was scoring over 30 goals a season in...

His negative tactics and team selection caused the big loss. Would've been closer with a more positive midfield

I wouldn't judge him too much on this game because koemans negative tactics really didn't help

So ye give out about him dropping too deep usually and now its hiding when he tries to stay up the pitch. He actually did drop deep when he wasn't getting the ball for ten minutes and he basically had to drop into his own half because that's where the midfield was. I'm not saying he is without...

He probably will if the rest of the team don't play like they did last night

When did he get a clear opportunity to shoot yesterday? Everytime he got near the box there were psg players around him or rows in front of him. If he was over-dribbling it was to find that space. He did get in space to shoot a couple of times but when a teammate can't give you a simple 5 yard...

It was clear koeman didn't want messi or the whole the team pressing like madmen. Griezmann wasn't either. Messi did his share though. That was not the reason for the loss anyway. Bad tactics, bad midfield and defence and no puig starting was the reason for at least a closer scoreline anyway...

Verratti is more combative than any of those players you mentioned. Anyway puig would have been alot busier than any barca midfielder tonight and that would've helped

Verratti's small legs dominate any midfield

Clearly should have started tonight. Would not have been dominated in midfield in the first half if he was

Not by much. Losing 4 1 at home is almost as bad as 8 2 on a neutral ground. Probably played better against bayern in spells as well