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And I've seen people who were crucifying Mourinho after he poked Tito's eye defending Suarez yesterday by saying that he didn't actually hurt Chiellini. It will be interesting to see what will they do if Suarez goes to RM.

Marca found the people guilty for Spain's failure:

He stepped on someone if I'm not mistaken and it was the first time in Spain that they used a retrospective ban. I can't imagine what would happend with Suarez in Spain if he would play for us, especially when you see how they spend days criticizing Messi only for a bad look he gave to Tello.

But it isn't just one action, isn't it?

Sport was writting today that Luis Enrique likes Suarez because he is a player who is always 'hungry'. :rofl1: 'Del uruguayo le gusta la ambición y el hambre de victoria que demuestra en cada partido hasta el punto de morder al rival si es necesario. Luis Suárez ha recibido varias sanciones por...

And at the same time they increased the salaries of Messi, Busi, Mascherano, Pique and Iniesta(and Rakitic will probably earn as much as Cesc did, which was 5M euros/year)..plus I don't think that Kroos should earn more than Iniesta or Neymar.

I can't believe that you would compare Real Madrid with Chelsea, knowing the history of the 2 clubs. And even so, Chelsea winning the CL and what they have done since 2004 in CL proves that they are a competitive club in Europe. That plus the money they are offering helps them sign players like...

Last time I checked the team that won the CL was Real Madrid so I don't know if they have little more else to offer him besides money..also our wage bill is similar to RM's, plus we are the ones paying a player's father 40M euros so that the respective player can say that his dream is to play...

And in 2012 he blamed himself for our elimination against Chelsea..and we all know that Messi is no angel, but atleast he isn't the kind of person who only celebrates his goal in a CL final and then blames his failures on the rest of his teammates at a WC.

He also said that before, when HE was playing badly with Argentina, the return to Barcelona was of help for him to play good again..and this time he hopes that it will be the other way around. So I don't see the need to crucify Messi just to defend Cristiano. And you say that you don't know what...

And that is supposed to help Bartomeu in the negotiations? :lol:

It was based on his performances on the last 2 and a half years with Barca, not on his performance for Spain. So I don't know why would you say that, especially after I had to read after the game against El Salvador how Messi and Alves were preventing Xavi from playing good for Spain.

Alexis fanboy :coffee:

When Luis Enrique said that he has to speak with Xavi I think that he already gave him a choice.

Exactly..Rijkaard managed to win the CL without Xavi, I don't see why LE wouldn't be able to build a new team without him also.

:coffee:

Until now it looks like karma only spared the traitor from a humiliation..our club can't say the same in the last year though.

Yes, I do because if it's one thing Cesc is good at is this..if he was having more throughballs with Arsenal than with us then why wouldn't he have as many with Sevilla? Why do you think that when we have such a difficult time these days at creating chances against a team like Atletico?

At the same time some might argue that having Messi in front of you might affect those stats(see how Messi is blamed for this to deffend Xavi) or that is harder to actually make those through balls when almost everybody is parking the bus when they play against Barca. Why wouldn't that be...

Fabregas: 24 accurate throughballs/48 total throughballs in La Liga Rakitic: 8 accurate throughballs/24 total throughballs in La Liga