1 - Marc-Andre ter Ansplant

[JamDav1982]

of course it would look unsavable when the initial posotionning is not perfect and the reaction slow. still he did great vs grizman and kept us in the game.

What a load of shit.

There was nothing wrong with his positioning or reaction.

Another one trying to hard to over anaylze any goal Barca lose as want this theory blaming TS to apply to every goal going.

Claiming stuff like this just exposes how little you understand or a ridiculous agenda.

 

[te amo barca]

Concedes an unsavable shot, gets murdered on this forum. Alright, I anticipated this anyway.

 

[Keikoku]

The shot was saveable, yes. By a GK with height 500cm.

Edit:

I think his position are good and his reaction wasn't slow either.

 

[Potroh]

Lol. That shot isn't gonna be saved by any keeper in the world past or present from where mats was positioned, and he was positioned right.

Oh boy... Do you really and confidently think that a shot becomes "unsavable" just because some of you have declared it as such???
Are there at all "unsavable" shots in this game? Penalty has been invented as being unsavable, but as you know penalties are often saved.
If a clear shot from 11 meters is not necessarily unsavable nowadays, do you seriously declare a shot from 23-24 meters as MORE unsavable than a penalty?

There are simply no unsavable shots, with a bunch of luck and good skills, keepers save "unsavable" shots every minute around the globe...
"Unsavable" means a conceded goal that the keeper cannot be blamed for, that's what the common tongue says, but it doesn't mean that elsewhere, under different circumstances a similar shot ALWAYS results a goal. That would be silly to believe, because with luck, each and every shot is savable. Just browse the net for the thousands of examples...

 

[JamDav1982]

Oh boy... Do you really and confidently think that a shot becomes "unsavable" just because some of you have declared it as such???
Are there at all "unsavable" shots in this game? Penalty has been invented as being unsavable, but as you know penalties are often saved.
If a clear shot from 11 meters is not necessarily unsavable nowadays, do you seriously declare a shot from 23-24 meters as MORE unsavable than a penalty?

There are simply no unsavable shots, with a bunch of luck and good skills, keepers save "unsavable" shots every minute around the globe...
"Unsavable" means a conceded goal that the keeper cannot be blamed for, that's what the common tongue says, but it doesn't mean that elsewhere, under different circumstances a similar shot ALWAYS results a goal. That would be silly to believe, because with luck, each and every shot is savable. Just browse the net for the thousands of examples...

Saves on youtube dont mean that every shot is stoppable.

Ridiculous logic.

Ter Stegen wasnt saving that yesterday.

Another great game from him.

 

[Potroh]

Saves on youtube dont mean that every shot is stoppable.
Ridiculous logic.

Sorry to say but this is the logic of this game and every coach and expert knows that.
This logic would become "ridiculous" if it wouldn't employ its own premise, namely that in a creative sport like this, there are NO ABSOLUTE situations, hence no definitive (positive or negative) attributes projected to any situation.

When you start thinking in absolute definitions (like savable, unsavable, omissible, etc.) then you are doomed, because the game itself never follows your own absolute expectations, hence you start angrily fighting with your own definitions.
What is definitively "impossible" for you, can easily become "possible" in a given moment of the play, therefore the best is always to avoid the absolute declarations.

 

[JamDav1982]

No sorry there will be no coach or expert who looks at that shot and tells Ter Stegen it was a savesble one due to other saves on YouTube.

Ridiculous.

If this is as far as you want to go to look for some criticism of Ter Stegen it is just pathetic.

He had a great game. No chance on goal. Deal with it and move on.

 

[wisconsincule]

Not going to knock him for that goal he conceded. Bailed us out twice before that came.

 

[Keikoku]

Sorry to say but this is the logic of this game and every coach and expert knows that.
This logic would become "ridiculous" if it wouldn't employ its own premise, namely that in a creative sport like this, there are NO ABSOLUTE situations, hence no definitive (positive or negative) attributes projected to any situation.

When you start thinking in absolute definitions (like savable, unsavable, omissible, etc.) then you are doomed, because the game itself never follows your own absolute expectations, hence you start angrily fighting with your own definitions.
What is definitively "impossible" for you, can easily become "possible" in a given moment of the play, therefore the best is always to avoid the absolute declarations.

Sorry to tell u wrong this time, but a shot on goal with rocket speed, with the goalkeeper in opposition area (say like when MaTS won that foul on him on PSG's area) is impossible to save.

 

[JamDav1982]

It is pathetic that you try so hard to claim Ter Stegen could do better with they shot that you resort to challenging the term 'unstoppable'.

A term that is used all the time in desribing players, passes, goals etc but you take exception to it being used for TS.

Save us the lectures about absolutes.

 

[God Serena]

Oh boy... Do you really and confidently think that a shot becomes "unsavable" just because some of you have declared it as such???
Are there at all "unsavable" shots in this game? Penalty has been invented as being unsavable, but as you know penalties are often saved.
If a clear shot from 11 meters is not necessarily unsavable nowadays, do you seriously declare a shot from 23-24 meters as MORE unsavable than a penalty?

There are simply no unsavable shots, with a bunch of luck and good skills, keepers save "unsavable" shots every minute around the globe...
"Unsavable" means a conceded goal that the keeper cannot be blamed for, that's what the common tongue says, but it doesn't mean that elsewhere, under different circumstances a similar shot ALWAYS results a goal. That would be silly to believe, because with luck, each and every shot is savable. Just browse the net for the thousands of examples...

Potroh spouting utter nonsense again for the sake of putting down a keeper he has never liked. How shocking.

He had no chance of making that stop. Hence, it's unsavable. Everything else you're doing is just bitching and moaning.

 

[Potroh]

Potroh spouting utter nonsense again for the sake of putting down a keeper he has never liked. How shocking.
He had no chance of making that stop. Hence, it's unsavable. Everything else you're doing is just bitching and moaning.

Just a bit worse reaction than usually...
First: I do like Stegen, consider him to be a very good GK (even if he is not always a reliable one).
Second: if it is "bitching" if one marginally mentions that constantly thinking in absolute categories as "savable", "unsavable" is a bit of simplification of this game (with exceptions in every 10 minutes), then all I have to say to these good folks: please carry on... but you need to hear time to time that your oversimplification tendencies seem to be a tiny bit: primitive...

 

[JamDav1982]

Just a bit worse reaction than usually...
First: I do like Stegen, consider him to be a very good GK (even if he is not always a reliable one).
Second: if it is "bitching" if one marginally mentions that constantly thinking in absolute categories as "savable", "unsavable" is a bit of simplification of this game (with exceptions in every 10 minutes), then all I have to say to these good folks: please carry on... but you need to hear time to time that your oversimplification tendencies seem to be a tiny bit: primitive...

Absolutes that I am willing to bet you have never challenged before and despite that there are finishes and goals that are unsaveable.

See them all the time.

 

[Neymessi]

Oh boy... Do you really and confidently think that a shot becomes "unsavable" just because some of you have declared it as such???
Are there at all "unsavable" shots in this game? Penalty has been invented as being unsavable, but as you know penalties are often saved.
If a clear shot from 11 meters is not necessarily unsavable nowadays, do you seriously declare a shot from 23-24 meters as MORE unsavable than a penalty?

There are simply no unsavable shots, with a bunch of luck and good skills, keepers save "unsavable" shots every minute around the globe...
"Unsavable" means a conceded goal that the keeper cannot be blamed for, that's what the common tongue says, but it doesn't mean that elsewhere, under different circumstances a similar shot ALWAYS results a goal. That would be silly to believe, because with luck, each and every shot is savable. Just browse the net for the thousands of examples...

If that shot was stopped it would be very rare and that would be called an outrageous save. So maybe that wasn't unsavable if you are going into technicals but it was entirely ok for him to not save that.

 

[xXKonan]

He's gotten a lot better this season without a doubt.