1 - Marc-Andre ter Ansplant

Richard.H

Senior Member
We suck as a team for sure, but are you saying that
Those 2 goals cant be saved;?

You could make claims like this for every keeper this season including Alisson and Oblak. What's your point? Second goal was from point blank, blame our shit slow mid and defense for not getting back. First goal was very lazy defending by Pique and Firpo, the latter which just turned around and let the player shoot like it was a practice match.
 

fergus90

Senior Member
One thing I will say, is that I don't think his distribution is at all great sometimes. Holds onto it way too long, and then opts for the hollywood ball to a midfielder who has too much to do. But yeah, he is the least of our problems now and usually a very stable performer for the most part.
 

JohnN

Senior Member
People have forgotten how inconsistent and borderline dangerous Valdes was.
Mats is the only player that is better than his counterpart, compares to our greatest team, so he is ok in my book.
 

Kul_z

Senior Member
People have forgotten how inconsistent and borderline dangerous Valdes was.
Mats is the only player that is better than his counterpart, compares to our greatest team, so he is ok in my book.

imagine having present day mats behind that team from 08-12

We'd easily add another cl to our trophy cabinet for sure
 

Rory

Senior Member
imagine having present day mats behind that team from 08-12

We'd easily add another cl to our trophy cabinet for sure

Highly doubt he stops that Ramires chip in the 2012 semi final. Inter 3-1 maybe he saves one of the goals but again doubt it, they were nothing to do with poor goalkeeping.
 

BADGERBHOY

Senior Member
imagine having present day mats behind that team from 08-12

We'd easily add another cl to our trophy cabinet for sure

I dont get the hate for VV here at all. Sure he was a bit of a liability in his formative years but in the 08- 12 period he was pretty damn great for us.
 

raedkuwait

Senior Member
imagine having present day mats behind that team from 08-12

We'd easily add another cl to our trophy cabinet for sure

I am 100% sure we would lose the arsenal final if we had mats as goal keeper VV
Can turn into a monster keeper in important and pressure games, while Mats would
Crumple under those games, so i would say if we had him back then we would have had less Cl trophies.
If we had VV in liverpool game or Rome we would have gone through.
 
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Respekt_III

Anti-everything
I am 100% sure we would lose the arsenal final if we had mats as goal keeper VV
Can turn into a monster keeper in important and pressure games, while Mats would
Crumple under those games, so i would say if we had him back then we would have had less Cl trophies.
If we had VV in liverpool game or Rome we would have gone through.

Dude go back and watch the games,thats pure nostalgia.
Where do you rate neur? By your reasoning and logic neur cost nayern the champions league against Chelsea (Drogba goal) as just one example.
 

raedkuwait

Senior Member
Its no surprise that all the old members in here, who have seen both VV and mats in pressure games, know how good was VV in pressure games, all the new members go for Mats. With Mats in our loses versus rome and liverpool and even juvintus u just had the feeling that every shot was gone turn a goal against us he is so damn shaky in tough games. And i have watched our cl games multiple times, go back watch the arsenal final and tell me we wouldnt have lost if mats was our keeper.
 

DonAK

President of FC Barcelona
Chelsea interested in signing him for cash + Kepa.

Abidal the bum would probably entertain that offer.
 

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