1 - Victor Valdes

Plip

Cardenal de Catalunya
Are you serious? He played well before that mistake, was a beast at taking charge in the box, people need to look at the full picture here...

Full picture is not something most of the posters on this forum are capable of comprehending. It only takes one major mistake for an over the top knee-jerk reaction. Not that I am fully surprised though. :rolleyes:
 
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Flavia

Guest
Not just one mistake. Second stupid goal he gives rm in less than a year. He cannot keep doing that.
 

King Leo

Banned
I second the opinion that pinto should play the 2nd leg as warning. No disrespect to vv but the super should have been pinto,s game.
 

Badger

New member
It was terrible but to be fair he was terrific before that. I still see him as one of the best in the business
 

Trickykid

Active member
Sigh... so many fans still not getting how extremely important Valdes' footwork is for our style. And no, there are not 10 better goalies out there. Actually I doubt there are any. At least not for the way we play.

His error tonight is inexcusable, but he'll get his shit together. It probably won't change the fact that clueless fans will keep calling for his head though.
 

evilhita666

Barçapocalypse NOW!
The thing is that in 2006 I used to think it was OK because he was a kid and all, and even last season I said, well it's only once in a while so it doesn't matter... But so eraly in the season? I hope he build on this and becomes a wall of badassery from now on!
 

Deco 20

Scandinavian 101
I think he's just not very bright, I mean at that point he had Cesc and Adriano who was free, yet he decides to dribble Di Maria :lol: I think he prefers conceding than giving away possession. People here (I know it's in jest most of the time) compare him to Casillas, but lets be honest, comparing VV and Casillas is like comparing Xavi to Scott Parker. VV enjoys the luxury of a team that controls possession better than any team in history, thus having to cope with much less pressure, but look at Casillas. On average Casillas has to make much more saves from close tranges than VV.
I don't agree, although Valdes hasn't reached his usual level for about a year now... Before that he consistently outperformed Casillas. And Casillas makes mistakes too, they're just not usually as obvious and there's no mention of them
 

Plip

Cardenal de Catalunya
Not just one mistake. Second stupid goal he gives rm in less than a year. He cannot keep doing that.

Well my dear, what do you suggest Tito does about it?

I say we let him redeem himself in the second leg, and if not, then Pinto should have a go for a few games just as a reminder that there is competition for the spot.
 

Badger

New member
Sigh... so many fans still not getting how extremely important Valdes' footwork is for our style. And no, there are not 10 better goalies out there. Actually I doubt there are any. At least not for the way we play.

His error tonight is inexcusable, but he'll get his shit together. It probably won't change the fact that clueless fans will keep calling for his head though.

I don't think there is a better goalkeeper for the way we play.
 
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estranged

Guest
Full picture is not something most of the posters on this forum are capable of comprehending. It only takes one major mistake for an over the top knee-jerk reaction. Not that I am fully surprised though. :rolleyes:

It's not just 'one major mistake' though. One major mistake is what you say it is, happens once. I mean people should also learn from their mistakes. VV has to do this every so often, he's still a great keeper, but isn't doing his reputation or the team any favors with these flops. 3-1 and 3-2 are very different results in a 2 legged tie.

I don't agree, although Valdes hasn't reached his usual level for about a year now... Before that he consistently outperformed Casillas. And Casillas makes mistakes too, they're just not usually as obvious and there's no mention of them

He was outperforming Casillas when Barca was dominating games with 70-30 possession and RM was in that transformation period and their defense was going through a tumultuous time, with Raul Albiol fucking things up and Ramos being used a RB/CB and doing a very poor job defensively.
 
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Badger

New member
It is no joke if i say that every big club (except Milan&Inter&Arsenal) got a better keeper than we have.

Joe Hart is not better than Valdes.

De Gea is not better than Valdes

Neuer is not better than Valdes(You'll know that if you have been watching the Bundesliga)

Cech is not better than Valdes
 

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