10 - Lionel Messi - v1

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FCBarca

Mike the Knife
You know, my take on recovery time (Especially for something like this) is that there is a timetable and then there's reality...The conventional wisdom says it will be 10-15 days to recover...As to having his ankle strong to where he will be back to where he was before the injury?...Truthfully, that could take months...It could even be years

There is no definitive way to gauge how long it will take for his ankle to heal completely...That joint and those ligaments protecting his ankle have been stretched out and recovery varies from person to person...Moreover, he will be playing at some point and then one sudden turn or cutback and that ankle that had been working to heal merely gets rolled over again.

Not sounding the alarm bells but that sort of injury for a player who relies on his ability to cut so often and at great speed, well, I think it will take longer to really see him back to where we expect him to be
 

Barcafan 2304

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Appreciate your post mate but i take great hope from the video/pictures of him walking out of the hospital today unaided. If there were going to be long-term problems, surely it would be born out of a more serious injury and he'd still be on crutches right now? The fact he is already walking with no aid and just a bandage around his ankle is very heartening and, hopefully, points to a sprain and no more.
 

FCBarca

Mike the Knife
Appreciate your post mate but i take great hope from the video/pictures of him walking out of the hospital today unaided. If there were going to be long-term problems, surely it would be born out of a more serious injury and he'd still be on crutches right now? The fact he is already walking with no aid and just a bandage around his ankle is very heartening and, hopefully, points to a sprain and no more.

Sprain or a strain amounts to the same issue, though...Ligaments have been stretched...It's like an elastic band that has been overstretched...It'll take time for it to recoil properly as well as show some resilience to further stretching or impact...The truth, however, is that once an ankle rolls like that it never quite returns to 100%...Just the nature of our bodies...Doesn't mean he can't be the same player, just means his ankle will roll, in all likelihood, much easier the next time...Part of the fitness staff's objective, undoubtedly, will be to sufficiently strengthen that ankle

I just think 2 weeks is a very optimistic if not altogether misleading estimate...His ankle will take longer to heal properly is my guess
 

La Furia

Legion of Doooom
ujfalusi's tackle was horrible. it was clumsy and late and dangerous. his foot goes over the ball. he was trying to stop messi, not hurt him I'm sure, but it was an ugly tackle.

if it was done in the premier league, or by a player nolan doesn't like, he'd be making sarcastic comments referencing the lack of technique/the brutality of the tackle/etc.

Ujfalusi is a blunt player who would fit in nicely in England actually. :lol: But at the same time, some of you are sounding like Arsene Wenger, and do you really want that? Also I'll admit my main reason for defending him is that when I'm forced to play as a defender I do shit like that all the time. When you are clumsy and lack agility you find yourself diving into players ankles.

Sprain or a strain amounts to the same issue, though...Ligaments have been stretched...It's like an elastic band that has been overstretched...It'll take time for it to recoil properly as well as show some resilience to further stretching or impact...The truth, however, is that once an ankle rolls like that it never quite returns to 100%...Just the nature of our bodies...Doesn't mean he can't be the same player, just means his ankle will roll, in all likelihood, much easier the next time...Part of the fitness staff's objective, undoubtedly, will be to sufficiently strengthen that ankle

I just think 2 weeks is a very optimistic if not altogether misleading estimate...His ankle will take longer to heal properly is my guess

What it means is Messi is going to be able to play again in 2 weeks. He won't be 100% for a month though. Saying he will only miss 2 games isn't optimistic, but it's not telling the whole story.
 
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Metaphysical

Bomb Dropper
Ujfalusi is a blunt player who would fit in nicely in England actually. :lol: But at the same time, some of you are sounding like Arsene Wenger, and do you really want that? Also I'll admit my main reason for defending him is that when I'm forced to play as a defender I do shit like that all the time. When you are clumsy and lack agility you find yourself diving into players ankles.

hey now, I'm not treating a horrible tackle like the kennedy assassination, so no need to generalise.

but it was a reducer. he meant to hack messi to stop him progressing. I'm sure he didn't mean to injure him, but that's the risk you run when you tackle aggressively with the intent of stopping the player.

What it means is Messi is going to be able to play again in 2 weeks. He won't be 100% for a month though. Saying he will only miss 2 games isn't optimistic, but it's not telling the whole story.

this is the truth.
 

Cal-FCB

Wurzeltron
Lol I'm the same, I've been committing dirty fouls for years Nolan. Standard procedure if a player has wound you up you make sure you go through him whilst you look to get the ball, or catch him on the follow through. It's different at this level though.
 

Ken_rosseneri

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This is the time to finally shut up Madrid fans (we already did IMO) n Barca haters...They say we can't win without Messi...we'll shut them up...I'm so glad messi's alright because i was damn mad dat dat guy would intentionally injure messi b/c dat injury looked intentional..It is wat it is..We are Barca and we'll do wat we do best...play sexy and most importantly, WIN!!
 

Pepe Silvia

Active member
Well any poor tackle is going to have pictures like that. It was definitely reckless and arguably thuggish, yes. I'm not blaming everyone here but there's plenty of talk about wishing terrible things happen to him an calling him things like a "coward" and a "criminal". Mascherano has made worse tackles before.
Hop off Ufas dick.
 
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Carefree

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This is the time to finally shut up Madrid fans (we already did IMO) n Barca haters...They say we can't win without Messi...we'll shut them up...I'm so glad messi's alright because i was damn mad dat dat guy would intentionally injure messi b/c dat injury looked intentional..It is wat it is..We are Barca and we'll do wat we do best...play sexy and most importantly, WIN!!

Not without Lionel Messi. Barcelona should comfortably beat Sporting Gijon mid-week, but they'll struggle against Bilbao without him. I watched the game on Sunday and winced when Ujfalusi made the tackle on Messi - reminded me of Aaron Mokoena's tackle on Arjen Robben back in 2004-05. That night he properly crocked Robben and he hasn't looked the same since.

I hope this doesn't stop Messi from playing the way he does. He's far too talented to have his career put on hold by thugs like Ujfalusi.
 

IbraFTW

Bazinga!
I have to repost this. Best (short) dribbling I ever saw. Changes in direction are unbelievable, no matter how many times you see it.

 

Barcaman

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I just updated the stats. Messi had fingers (goals or assists) in 10 out of 14 Barca goals this season. 7 goals and 3 assists to be precise.
Amazing and scary.
 

putogusiluz8

The Pale One
I have to repost this. Best (short) dribbling I ever saw. Changes in direction are unbelievable, no matter how many times you see it.


This is random but Drenthe reminds me of the octopus looking machines from the matrix the way he's running after Messi, just how his hair moves lol
 

DaniAlves

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I just updated the stats. Messi had fingers (goals or assists) in 10 out of 14 Barca goals this season. 7 goals and 3 assists to be precise.
Amazing and scary.
He's amazing but yes this is very scary indeed. I'm still very worried and I really hope the others will step up and start scoring in his abscence. It's not that I don't trust them because I really think they will, but it would be very naive to think that we wont notice the abscence of the best player in the world at all.
 

El Gato

Villarato!
I don't know if anyone posted it already, because it's been about 4-5 pages of this topic already.
http://www.elmundodeportivo.es/gen/...as-a-messi-lo-siento-no-fue-mi-intencion.html
Ujfalusi says he is really sorry, he aimed for the ball but Messi was just too fast for him and the replays clearly show that he got the ball (erm. well.) He also stated that he regrets that Messi will be out for 2 weeks, but for him he is the best in the world and that his tackle was regrettable and reckless. He didn't care about red card, he just went down to the locker room straight away waiting to talk to Messi, but he wasn't able to have a conversation yet due to pain, instead in the morning he sent an apology from Kun's mobile phone. He says that he has never been a defender who aims to take out the player and never will be, these things happen, he can't change the hard and aggressive style of play, but he truly regrets what's happened.

There also is a video on this page from the conference where he said all this.

BTW
The earlier post about Ujfalusi going down to the locker room and apologizing I based on the info from the news from some sport.com website or something like that. I guess not really reliable. Sorry for that.
 
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