10 - Lionel Messi - v1

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ricknattery

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Oh yes it's 10000000000000 % the case .

It's not even a subject for debate , i felt sorry for Messi cause that's a natural thing to do but some of the "fake " passion and calls for crucifixion is way over the top and ... yes Hypocritical

go to Alves thread and see if there is the same crusade or even 1/1000 of what he is writing or others

well, you gotta acknowledge nobody will turn against the team or anything you support, you haven't discover anything
PS. Taking a side on the crap that AS is known for bringing against us doesnt talk well about you
 
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Beast

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well, you gotta acknowledge nobody will turn against the team or anything you support, you haven't discover anything

Nor do i claim i discovered it.. i just stripped down the hypocritical moral high-ground and showed it like it is ..

As the great George Orwell said " "We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. " ;)
 

ricknattery

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Nor do i claim i discovered it.. i just stripped down the hypocritical moral high-ground and showed it like it is ..

As the great George Orwell said " "We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. " ;)

Beast you are hypocritical, i'm hypocritical, that happens to all of us at some point

PS I think 2 games ban is ok. Ujfalusi should be happy he didnt break Messi's ankle or he'd be the most hated footballer on earth. Nothing compared to what he is facing now
 
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FCBarca

Mike the Knife
Meanwhile, I'm reminded of another great American writer, Carnegie...“When dealing with people, remember you are not dealing with creatures of logic, but with creatures of emotion, creatures bristling with prejudice, and motivated by pride and vanity”
 

Beast

The Observer
Beast you are hypocritical, i'm hypocritical, that happens to all of us at some point

PS I think 2 games ban is ok. Ujfalusi should be happy he didnt break Messi's ankle or he'd be the most hated footballer on earth. Nothing compared to what he is facing now

We are tiny fish in the ocean of FCBarca ;)

yes the two game ban is very fair
 

Pepe Silvia

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Real truth Gio, had Ufalusi tackled anyone on the Madrid roster in that manner, I'd want the 4 match ban too. I wouldn't be as pissed or vocal about it, but I would see the same wreckless baboso challenge. Look Ufalusi was smoked to hell and back when Messi made that run, and KNEW he had to take out Messi. Instead of back down and play defense he stepped in and cut into Messi right away because he knew he was too slow to properly defend that. That calls for straight red and 4 matches. That is a career ending tackle for some people. Don't downplay the severity of it.
 

FCBarca

Mike the Knife
The Beast is a mental pussy cat when it comes to logic here...Stooping to an incomprehensible and incomparable example with the Alves clip...Just when I think Madridistas can't stoop much lower, low & behold there's yet another rung below it...Stay classy
 

Beast

The Observer
Real truth Gio, had Ufalusi tackled anyone on the Madrid roster in that manner, I'd want the 4 match ban too. I wouldn't be as pissed or vocal about it, but I would see the same wreckless baboso challenge. Look Ufalusi was smoked to hell and back when Messi made that run, and KNEW he had to take out Messi. Instead of back down and play defense he stepped in and cut into Messi right away because he knew he was too slow to properly defend that. That calls for straight red and 4 matches. That is a career ending tackle for some people. Don't downplay the severity of it.

.. Pepe my man i'm not downplaying anything but there is a big difference between say Pepe actions in Getafe of the butcher of Bilbao on Maradona and Ujfalusi tackle which some could contribute the fast pace of Messi as u and Pep himself said .. i mean if you want to take down a player intentionally u would do it early to take him not when the game is dying
I'm not defending Ujfalusi or downplaying it.. i'm pointing out the fact that people make like the worst tackle in the universe .. it's not he is not a known butcher like say the infamous Dr Alvaro or the Butcher of Bilbao , it's a 2 max 3 game ban .. and the point Pepe i was making on the hypocrisy of some.. go to the last page re-read what he wrote and what he wrote to defend Alves .. it's really funny :D
 

FCBarca

Mike the Knife
go to the last page re-read what he wrote and what he wrote to defend Alves .. it's really funny :D

Funnier still, really, that you couldn't debate any of the points I made differentiating the two...Perhaps only exceeded by how 'funny' it is that you'd even have the audacity to compare the two...It truly shows how ludicrous your stream of bias and, frankly, logic are

Flip that scenario around and were it CR taken down by Ujfalusi and it Ramos with the tackle, you'd never even mention those two examples in the same breadth...Instead, you're merely showing those capital club colors rather than letting those brain cells fire properly
 

Beast

The Observer
The Beast is a mental pussy cat when it comes to logic here...Stooping to an incomprehensible and incomparable example with the Alves clip...Just when I think Madridistas can't stoop much lower, low & behold there's yet another rung below it...Stay classy

You wouldn't know class if hit you in the face.. maybe you need some highlight of your hypocritical nature ?

Annoying as all hell to continue to read these comments from managers etc, weighing in that if it were any other player than Leo or CR, that the reaction would be less intense...Obviously, there's more attention because of the significance of it being Leo...BUT, the actual foul and manner in which it was done is egregious, regardless of player...That sort of thing has to be dealt with appropriately, as many others have agreed, so that ALL players are protected...That serves no one's best interests to see a defender potentially cripple another player or put them on the shelf indefinitely...There's far too much at stake, whether you are a big club like Barca or a tiny one like Sporting...Moreover, it is NOT football to physically harm another player like this...It has no place in the game and so I believe the punishment has to fit the crime and be a clear message to other defenders, that this sort of 'defending' cannot be tolerated

After AS posted the video of Barca-Racing game with Alves doing same bad tackle
Sadly, Beast, you remain incredibly biased through your RM glasses...You're gonna compare that challenge to Ujfalusi's?...I thought you had more insight than that
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1. Dani is not behind the play or the player...Ujfalusi is
2. Dani gets the ball BEFORE inadvertently catching the player's ankle...Ujfalusi got nowhere near the ball, only got the player's ankle
3. Dani is sliding for the tackle, Ujfalusi is not sliding and instaed coming down, heel first
4. Dani immediately goes to make sure the player is alright on the pitch...Ujfalusi never even remotely showed an interest in the player's well being
5. Dani was not red carded and rightly so based on how the play developed, the rules of the game and the player's intent & action...Ujfalusi qualified for none of those

Pathetic from you Beast :blind:

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suddenly Ujfalusy was not beside Messi but behind him ... and it's all good in the hood cause it's Dani Alves not another team player...

that's what happen when the player is not Messi or CR.. u make a nice U turn and eat your words and the tackle is fair and normal ..

thank fuck there are people like Pepe who at least had the maturity and class to say it's the same and deserve the same punishment ..

go back to your hypocrite class ;)
 

House of Flies

all your bases belong to us
to be honest, shit happens like that on the field. the game has been pussified for a long time with play acting, clamp down on tackles.

many fans (barca or real madrid alike) hate it when it happens to their players but wish it upon other team. i for one, think that ujfalusi should not be penalised for anything because of shit happens.
 

FCBarca

Mike the Knife
You wouldn't know class if hit you in the face.. maybe you need some highlight of your hypocritical nature?

Somehow, classy and Beast just don't come to mind together....So pardon me if I'm less than impressed that I don't meet your standards for class when it's already clear logic & reason is something that escapes you



After AS posted the video of Barca-Racing game with Alves doing same bad tackle

There's a shock, a Madrid paper trying to link one injury of a Barca player with another where a Barca player somehow 'escapes' rebuke for what it (And you, clearly) deem similar...Seeing that you enjoy quotes of others, reminds me of another famous American quote...'Don't take a piss and tell me it's raining'

And still no response to the points I made regarding how dissimilar those 'comparisons' were...Gee, I can see how you can confuse big words like hypocrite when these details give you difficulty
 

10Messi10

True Barcelonista
it's not about hypocracy or favor of barca..if alves tackle CR like ujfalusi did to messi, 3/4 matches ban will get my vote
 

Barcafan 2304

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I'd like to remind people of my favourite quote from a series of books i still find very challenging and thought provoking to this day. It goes something like this:-

'Colour in these spaces provided and try not to go over the lines'.

I think that is something we can all take away from this incident
 
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