10 - Lionel Messi - v3

[Luftstalag14]

That was pretty ridiculous, on the other hand he won the award for best player in the wc, so he clearly gets recognition. He will finish as a top 3 player of the year, be it 1-3, as he should.

Sure, and that old bag shabi Blatter openly mocked Messi for winning the award.

I despise Blatter so much.

 

[Morten]

Sure, and that old bag shabi Blatter openly mocked Messi for winning the award.

I despise Blatter so much.

Blatter is a complete joke, everyone knows that, what he says shouldnt be taken seriously, in fact he should be ignored entirely. I dont what it is whith these Uefa/fifa tops, they seem to have a habbit of always speaking their mind about these awards, in their positions they shouldnt, Platini is hardly any better these days.

 

[Morten]

I never suggested any worldwide conspiracy against him. I was referring to the reception he is getting from many within the football circle and media, which is nothing but pity, as if he had such a bad year, as if he fell off his pedestal, as if he is just another player nowadays.

Thats the price of being the biggest star on the team. The best players and biggest stars gets the majority of the praise from the media when things are going well for the team, deserved or not. They also bear most of the blame from the media, when the team is failing, deserved or not. Thus the picture from the media after a bad game paint the picture that he is not good anymore, then hails him as the goat if he plays well the next. The media is like that, there is a very short way from heaven to hell in their eyes.

 

[Luftstalag14]

Thats the price of being the biggest star on the team. The best players and biggest stars gets the majority of the praise from the media when things are going well for the team, deserved or not. They also bear most of the blame from the media, when the team is failing, deserved or not. Thus the picture from the media after a bad game paint the picture that he is not good anymore, then hails him as the goat if he plays well the next. The media is like that, there is a very short way from heaven to hell in their eyes.

Spanish national media never portrayed him in a positive light, no matter what, right?

English media also gave me the impression that they never liked Messi that much.

 

[doublehh03]

Ugh hate days between matches. Pointless discussion lol.

 

[Kerrybai]

Messi and Ronaldo are number 1 and 2 in whatever order. End of. Anyone who puts someone like Neuer ahead is just doing it to be a hipster. In 50 years time no one will say that Neuer was ever better, I mean why not pick Courtois.

I hate this thread now. This ballon dor talk is just so shit. Ronaldo has edged Messi this year so he deserves it, and everyone here knows I'm the biggest Messi fan by going so if I can admit it then there should be no need to discuss it further. Imo Messi should have gotten it last year but whatever sometimes these things are just politics and BS.

I am 99% sure the next 2 will go to Messi and then it will move on to someone else.

 

[Egert]

Leo to take on Hazard soon

 

[Luftstalag14]

I am 99% sure the next 2 will go to Messi and then it will move on to someone else.

I am not so sure at all, Kerry. For starters, Messi himself has to at least sustain his current level, scoring and assisting well ahead of other players. And not getting injured.

It also depends on a few other factors outside of his personal control:

(1) How will Ronaldo do? I think it would be a mistake to assume once he hits 30, he is going to slow down significantly. So far Ronaldo has shown no signs of slowing down at all, as a matter of fact (or opinion, at least agreed by Ronaldo himself) that he is having the best form of his career. Ronaldo could turn out to be someone like Ribery and Robben who get better as they age. Ronaldo has the attributes to keep on going at a very high level. To quote 442, "His all-round technical ability, his incredible physicality and his commitment to maintaining his high standards mean the Portuguese can go on and on for years to come – and there won’t be a single stepover." If Ronaldo keeps going like this, with a superb Real Madrid team around him, I wouldn't be surprised if he wins his 4th and 5th BD.

(2) How will our team do? Messi can be at the top of his game and score like crazy, but if our team is still in this rather lackluster form (and not being able to bridge the gap between us and the likes of Bayern and Real Madrid, the true 1st tier teams) with a pretty clueless manager and a board that are not helping out at all, it would be very, very hard for us to win any meaningful trophies. Without those trophies, Messi might just kiss the BD bye-bye.

 

[hamad138]

Leo to take on Hazard soon

when?

 

[JamDav1982]

I am not so sure at all, Kerry. For starters, Messi himself has to at least sustain his current level, scoring and assisting well ahead of other players. And not getting injured.

It also depends on a few other factors outside of his personal control:

(1) How will Ronaldo do? I think it would be a mistake to assume once he hits 30, he is going to slow down significantly. So far Ronaldo has shown no signs of slowing down at all, as a matter of fact (or opinion, at least agreed by Ronaldo himself) that he is having the best form of his career. Ronaldo could turn out to be someone like Ribery and Robben who get better as they age. Ronaldo has the attributes to keep on going at a very high level. To quote 442, "His all-round technical ability, his incredible physicality and his commitment to maintaining his high standards mean the Portuguese can go on and on for years to come – and there won’t be a single stepover." If Ronaldo keeps going like this, with a superb Real Madrid team around, I wouldn't be surprised if he wins his 4th and 5th BD.

(2) How will our team do? Messi can be at the top of his game and score like crazy, but if our team is still in this rather lackluster form (and not being able to bridge the gap between us and the likes of Bayern and Real Madrid, the true 1st tier teams) with a pretty clueless manager and a board that are not helping out at all, it would be very, very hard for us to win any meaningful trophies. Without those trophies, Messi might just kiss the BD bye-bye.

I dont think Messi does have to score/assist like crazy. He does that already.

For me he would have a better chance if he had bigger contributions in the biggest games and was more of a constant presence in those games.

With that leading Barca to trophies.

 

[Luftstalag14]

I dont think Messi does have to score/assist like crazy. He does that already.

For me he would have a better chance if he had bigger contributions in the biggest games and was more of a constant presence in those games.With that leading Barca to trophies.

Agreed.

 

[serghei]

Well, fan or no fan, you must admit he's been contained too easily in some of the big games we've played in the last 2 years. Even in this clasico, he was pretty absent. Needs to show his fighting spirit more I think.

 

[linetty]

Rafael Hernández ‏@RafaelH117
Messi’s yellow card after being hit by a water bottle has been rescinded after Barcelona appealed the original decision.

 

[BarcaGirl]

Messi's yellow card has been withdrawn

 

[Madara Uchiha]

Wow I didn't expect that.