10 - Lionel Messi - v4

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raskolnikov

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Let us be fair, at the start of the season Messi was struggling, but he still managed to reach 63 goals /w 4 games to go. So nothing is impossible. Also, next season he is likely to play around 65-70 games for Barca an Argentina.

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Assuming he wont get injured, thats basically the problem a bit. We Always assume he will do the same or better in next seasons but its hard to predict.
Look at 2013/14, you wouldnt predict those type stats compared to the two years before that.
Same you wouldnt guess that he would do so much better this season.
In my mind a guy like Messi should score 50+ a season with 20+ assists for it too be great individually in regards to stats. After 30 it will be harder and harder to reach those goal stats, but his assists might go 30+
 

LordLichtenstein

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Assuming he wont get injured, thats basically the problem a bit. We Always assume he will do the same or better in next seasons but its hard to predict.
Look at 2013/14, you wouldnt predict those type stats compared to the two years before that.
Same you wouldnt guess that he would do so much better this season.
In my mind a guy like Messi should score 50+ a season with 20+ assists for it too be great individually in regards to stats. After 30 it will be harder and harder to reach those goal stats, but his assists might go 30+
Sure, there is always a risk of getting injured.

But we have to remember, this is Messi we are talking about.

As for goalscoring, many people keep saying that 2011-12 (1.26 per 90 min) was his absolute peak, while I say 2012-13 (1.33 per 90 min). Had he not gotten injured, he would have beaten his 50 goals in La Liga & 73 goals in a season records, so yes, you can never know.

Now, while this year has been incredible, I fully expect him be even better next season, and it basically comes down to this.

- He is now 100% back to his old form.
- Him and the team will be full of confidence, after getting back on track and winning trophies.
- Suárez will be playing an even bigger part of next season. He has played 3439 minutes this season, which translates to 38 x 90 & 19 min. All in all (if we don't count those 3 early Copa del Rey matches), then he have missed 17 x 90 & 71 min. So almost 18 games -or 32% of the season.
- Neymar will also play a bigger part next season, he has played 4014 minutes this season, which translates to 44 x 90 & 54 min. In other words, he has missed 11 x 90 & 36 min. Around 20% of the season.
- Enrique now have his strongest 11, which he didn't have before January.
- Barca will be playing more games next season.
- Messi will likely win another Ballon d'Or, so that should also help his confidence :)
 

Alik

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Not officially. I read, don't remember where, that Messi's vomits were due to him being allergic to something, and that it could be gluten. He has stopped doing that since he went to the italian dietician.

Oh, I was wondering about that. Great, one more mystery solved!
 

Alik

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Just read this youtube comment :lol::

"From now on, whenever messi gets fouled, even if he is on the half way line, it should be a red card for the offender because even in that position, it's a potential goal scoring opportunity."
 

LordLichtenstein

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Maybe, he would need to score about 75goals/year, who knows what he can do..
I expect him to score at least 3 goals in his 4 remaning games, before he turns 27, so he will need to score around 70 two years in a row.


24: 82 - 100% with no injuries
25: 69 - 100% got injured in the final stages of the season.
26: 46 - Not 100% and was injured a lot.
27: 63 - Wasn't 100% before January and no injuries.
28: ?? - 100% with no injuries (I hope) :)
 

dakt

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My reaction was that I stood up and started clapping, while everyone else in the house went silent for a minute.
 

raskolnikov

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I expect him to score at least 3 goals in his 4 remaning games, before he turns 27, so he will need to score around 70 two years in a row.


24: 82 - 100% with no injuries
25: 69 - 100% got injured in the final stages of the season.
26: 46 - Not 100% and was injured a lot.
27: 63 - Wasn't 100% before January and no injuries.
28: ?? - 100% with no injuries (I hope) :)

In the end it will depend more on how long he keeps playing, if he retires at 34/35 he might have 700+ goals, if he retires at 41 he might have 800+.
Im still sticking to my 700+ goals with 300+ assists with record amount of trophies won:p
 

dakt

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I asked the question earlier, but do you guys think he will be able to reach 600 career goals before he turns 30?


27: Messi has 457 career goals, with 4 games left before he turns 28.

I really don't care about the goal count. I would rather see golazos like these and clever passes then hundreds of tapins/penalties.
 

LordLichtenstein

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In the end it will depend more on how long he keeps playing, if he retires at 34/35 he might have 700+ goals, if he retires at 41 he might have 800+.
Im still sticking to my 700+ goals with 300+ assists with record amount of trophies won:p
By 34/35 he will have 800 goals. By 41, 1000. :p
 

LordLichtenstein

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Just for fun I wanted to make a "chart", showing hos many % each of our players in our strongest start XL have missed during this season.

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Neymar, Suárez, Busquets & Rakitic shouldn't be so high.
 
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