10 - Lionel Messi - v5

DonAndres

Wild Man of Borneo
This accusation goes well beyond being a shady/greedy sportsman. This level of unreported income essentially being money laundered is historical for a single individual. More than the likes of Franklin Jurado, literally around Cartel levels.

The scope and scale here just seems outright absurd.
 

Stoichkov1

New member
I read the print version usually, really nice when being on the train. Can't say if SPIEGEL Online is greatly different, is that even another newspaper? I always thought this was just the same thing but for the tablet and e-book people.

The guy on reddit said that the redaktion is different. I'm not german so I don't know what that means.
 

Albo

New member
This accusation goes well beyond being a shady/greedy sportsman. This level of unreported income essentially being money laundered is historical for a single individual. More than the likes of Franklin Jurado, literally around Cartel levels.

The scope and scale here just seems outright absurd.

It's about 7,5 million euros.
 

Yannik

Senior Member
Didn't they try to grab everyone's attention with an eye-catching headline and claim of Ronaldo evading up to 100m of taxes or something like that? Has it been established or proven that what they were claiming was true?

The headline of the article was:

Steueroase British Virgin Islands
Ronaldos Rutsche

and the teaser:
"30.000 Einwohner, 600.000 Briefkastenfirmen - die British Virgin Islands sind eine perfekte Steueroase. Hier sitzen auch drei Offshore-Firmen, mit denen Cristiano Ronaldo millionenschwere Geschäfte machte."

translated:

Tax Haven british Virgin Islands
Ronaldo's slide

"30,000 inhabitants, 600,000 letterbox companies - the British Virgin Islands are a perfect tax haven. Here are also three offshore companies that Cristiano Ronaldo earns millions with"




depends on how eye catching you find that but besudes that there's nothing claiming he evaded 100m. They just said that Ronaldo transferred 150m through offshore accounts. That alone isnt illegal. Quite ithe mmorale thing to do, but not actually a punishable thing and done by many companies. Tax shelters aren't illegal after all if the tax authorities are in the know about them. The suspicious things in the article that later caused the investiations was the email traffic between Ronado's lawyers in which they fappeared to be noticabble concerned that the Spanish tax authority could make inquiries about "Tollin", one of Ronaldo's offshore companies.

The whole thing was pretty neutrally written and even acknowledged the fact that this doesn't mean that anyhting illegal is going on. The whole clickbait and dramatizing was then created by shitty twitter pundits and sports papers quoting them because, let's be serious, "sports journalism" is and has always been a joke.
 
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DonAndres

Wild Man of Borneo
It's about 7,5 million euros.

I'm not home right now so not doing any real research, but how does that tie in to the reported 105m figure? IIRC Messi's contract was originally thought to be roughly 30m per year plus bonuses.

If he's allegedly making "a minimum of 105m per season" then how did he 'only' funnel 7.5m of it through his foundation?
 

Barcaman

Administrator
Staff member
3 days ago it's Messi disrespecting Abidal, now this. What's next? Sounds awfully like another smear campaign orchestrated from Madrid.
 

Mitchell1978

Senior Member
I'm not home right now so not doing any real research, but how does that tie in to the reported 105m figure? IIRC Messi's contract was originally thought to be roughly 30m per year plus bonuses.

If he's allegedly making "a minimum of 105m per season" then how did he 'only' funnel 7.5m of it through his foundation?

105m is his reported salary before tax (salary, image right + signing bonus), there was also a bonus of 23m which more or less would cover what Messi had to pay to regularise taxes around his foundation

again from what i understand from that article, evrything is more or less 'settled' now, just seems like a sensationalist article now
 
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Albo

New member
I'm not home right now so not doing any real research, but how does that tie in to the reported 105m figure? IIRC Messi's contract was originally thought to be roughly 30m per year plus bonuses.

If he's allegedly making "a minimum of 105m per season" then how did he 'only' funnel 7.5m of it through his foundation?

He can ask as much salary as he likes and if Barca is willing to pay that + taxes it's all good. After all, Messi and Barca go very much hand in hand and 100m is nothing compared to the revenue and popularity that Messi brings.

The problem arises when talking about his foundation. I'm not sure sure if Messi holds any power within the foundation or is it just his name on the foundation. Someone could look it up. But essentially Barca has paid a part of Messi's salary via his foundation because the taxes are much lower. 7,5-8,5m euros seems to be the amount. Barca made a really smart move by bringing the tax specialist in, without him shit would have gone down but they managed to correct the tax amount paid before it could be considered a crime.

Edit: These 7,5-8.5m figures that are being shown happened much earlier in Messi's career, it has nothing to do with the current contract. To my understanding FC Barcelona now holds the rights regulate the Lionel Messi Foundation. A really smart move by them to make sure shit like that this doesn't happen again, after all, the whole Messi family seems to be a bunch of gangster who are lucky that one of them is the best footballer ever.
 
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Yannik

Senior Member

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