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No amigo , i claimed that arguing after getting butthurt with my opinion made you salty.
Messi isn't bottler but he bottled those two matches you mentioned like Ronaldo bottled 2015 &2016 league .
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Messi isn't bottler but he bottled those two matches you mentioned like Ronaldo bottled 2015 &2016 league .
JamDav1982
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Liking the 'Amigo' banter. Keep it coming. Great word.
Haha yes you are proving my point. Thanks.
No no you clearly described Messi as a bottler on a number of occassions.
Poor stuff from a 'Messi fan'.
Xavi better under Pep... Messi didnt deserve balon dor 2010...any more?
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Nop Amigo i didn't said Messi was bottler . Two penalty misses in big games wont make him or penaldo a bottler . Fact is both bottled those matches mentioned .
Xavi >Messi in Pep's system
Xavi deserved Ballon dor in 2010
Nothing more . If you ask me some rapid fire questions ,yeah i will give you my answers . I am feeling quite bored at home .
JamDav1982
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Messi basically won 4 balon dors under Pep.
How many of those should Xavi have won if better player?
Amigo.xx
How many of those should Xavi have won if better player?
Amigo.xx
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Being a better player doesn't mean you should win Ballon dor . It's more of marketing than anything . Still Xavi was robbed of Ballon dor in 2010, not Sneijder like Anti Messi wing claims to be .
JamDav1982
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If all fair and no marketing involved.
How many of those 4 balon dors did Xavi deserve if he was best player in that Pep side?
You are avoiding answering as knew would.
Can ask easier way - in your opinion how many times of those four years would you have voted Xavi as better than Messi?
'Messi only beat Xavi due to marketing'
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Already answered it so many times . 2010 . How many times should i repeat . Ballon dors are nothing more than marketing in my opinion . But 2010 , 2013 and 2016 were ridiculous . Actual winners should have been Xavi , Ribery and Suarez if it was all fair and square
JamDav1982
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Ok so Messi only won four balon dors in that time due to marketing but Xavi was the better player under Pep.
Got it.
Really if Xavi was best player in that time he deserved to be voted ahead of Messi at least twice in your opinion.
Knew you wouldnt answer as cant wihtout sounding fucking stupid.
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Xavi was better and most important player for Barca under Pep and deserved Ballon dor in 2010 more than any year . 2011 and 2009 i won't mind since criteria has been down to goal scoring ..But they shouldn't have turned a blind eye towards Xavi's impact in 2010 Wc triumph
JamDav1982
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So as I said you claim Xavi best Barca player under Pep and Messi only won four due to marketing.
Really better player in a fair world should be winning more.
Give us your no1 in balon dor for each of those years.
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Better and fair results should have been
2008- Penaldo
2009- Messi
2010-Xavi
2011- Messi
2012 -Messi
2013 -Ribery
2014- Penaldo
2015- Messi
2016- Suarez
2017- Penaldo
2008- Penaldo
2009- Messi
2010-Xavi
2011- Messi
2012 -Messi
2013 -Ribery
2014- Penaldo
2015- Messi
2016- Suarez
2017- Penaldo
JamDav1982
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Haha so Xavi was better under Pep but Messi deserved 3 balon dors in 4 years.
Aye that makes a lot of sense.
Clearly Messi was the better player under Pep.
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Na , Na criteria for Ballon dor has changed over the years . You can't give the ballon dor to certain player even he is the most important player in a system like Xavi and Modric . Goals , stats , marketing everything will be taken in to account . which is kinda unfair in my opinion . Take out all the goals still Messi's impact was huge in 2009 and 2011 , so it's not that kinda injustice to xavi depsite being more important to Barca
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Nop he wasn't . Xavi was more important to Barca under Pep
JamDav1982
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You said Xavi was better player under Pep but Messi deserved three balon dors in four years.
All over the place and doesnt make sense.
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