10 - Lionel Messi - v5

RMU ReBorn

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This distance isn't as big as it was in some seasons. I'd say MATS is pretty close. His heroics in some games were incredible.
Mats isn't a outfield player . Yes he has been heroic . You need that don't you ? . In 2013 we had Xavi and iniesta . This season it has been pretty much Messi alone in creating goal scoring opportunities
 

RMU ReBorn

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No, you called fans ungrateful for not enjoying a domestic double like it's Christmas, Eid, Diwali or Hanukkah. It's very clear in the past pages and even other threads. You're the one trying to change any frequency and wavelength now by denying all that and claiming you called the ones bashing Messi for ungrateful.

" i will never forgive Messi for spoiling a generation of u grateful fans " . Now go and read all the bullshit that was posted above that . If Messi can't be forgiven for Roma lose forget about all the trophys he won for us . Fucking pathetic glory wankers
 

Mitchell1978

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He doesn't. He stated that himself. But if he wants to, he'll play. We'll see. But aside from Classico, I don't see him playing in much more games, if Betis wins tonight.

Barça would still have needed another point even if Atletico lost.

And i can't remember saying that he doesn't care about that award, just because he cares more about the team winning doesn't mean he doesn't care about individual awards.

Salah won't be easy to catch but it would be stupid not to try and there's also a good chance to have an undefeated season with Barça, that chance might never come again.

Some of you seem overly obsessed with rest, you do realise the world cup only starts 4 weeks after the season ends and at this moment its still 8 weeks away.
Barça has a light schedule the rest of the way anyway.
 

raki

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And we kind of showed last night that we can access a high enough level to compete for the CL. But we didn't because the management and planning for CL sucked big time. And Valverde is the first one to blame.

Agree. La liga was done and dust. What´s the point in winning by 15 points?

A rested team showed yesterday what they can do.
 

FCBfan22

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Barça would still have needed another point even if Atletico lost.

And i can't remember saying that he doesn't care about that award, just because he cares more about the team winning doesn't mean he doesn't care about individual awards.

Salah won't be easy to catch but it would be stupid not to try and there's also a good chance to have an undefeated season with Barça, that chance might never come again.

Some of you seem overly obsessed with rest, you do realise the world cup only starts 4 weeks after the season ends and at this moment its still 8 weeks away.
Barça has a light schedule the rest of the way anyway.

If Atletico lost today, we would've won the league. They would be 12 points behind with 4 games to go and we have a better head to head record against them, so in case of a draw, we would've won.

Anyway about Messi's playtime when we win the league... If he wants to play, play him. If he wants to rest, rest him. But in any case we should give Dembele, Paco, Mina, Cillesen and maybe even Alena a lot of playtime, with or without Messi on the pitch.
 

Devils

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" i will never forgive Messi for spoiling a generation of u grateful fans " . Now go and read all the bullshit that was posted above that . If Messi can't be forgiven for Roma lose forget about all the trophys he won for us . Fucking pathetic glory wankers

Tad ironic you toss out terms like 'ungrateful fans' or 'fucking pathetic glory wankers' at people yet in the Suarez thread you are already spamming bashful comments about Griezmann coming and mocking his performances before he even had chance to play for us.

Case of pot calling the kettle black.
 

RMU ReBorn

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Deportivo , Rm , Villareal , Levante , RSD

5 matches remaining and there is one month rest before world cup . Why the fuck should he rest in any of these matches , giving away the Golden boot to salah . If anyone deserves this it's Messi . Liverpool has a entire system and players feeding Salah . Here Messi is feeding Suarez and still is competing with Salah for golden boot . Unreal . No record book will showcase these facts years later . He will become first player in the history to win 5 European Golden boots if he wins it
 

serghei

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Agree. La liga was done and dust. What´s the point in winning by 15 points?

A rested team showed yesterday what they can do.

Not just rest. But motivation, concentration, realising that CL is a competition that needs different preparation than a league type tournament. In the league you can get away with not going fully fit or not going fully prepared in a game. You can get away at Eibar for letting the opponent dictate the game too much. In CL you can't. Even teams like Roma have players who can hurt you if you don't show up. It's the manager's role to make sure that this doesn't happen and that the players are physically and mentally ready to face these pressure games.
 
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RMU ReBorn

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Tad ironic you toss out terms like 'ungrateful fans' or 'fucking pathetic glory wankers' at people yet in the Suarez thread you are already spamming bashful comments about Griezmann coming and mocking his performances before he even had chance to play for us.

Case of pot calling the kettle black.

Griezmann isn't officially a Barca player . Neither has he played for Barca before . I posted that comment to defend Suarez who has done a lot for my club . If that makes me ungrateful ,let it be my dear fellow Barca fan
 

soul24rage

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Deportivo , Rm , Villareal , Levante , RSD

5 matches remaining and there is one month rest before world cup . Why the fuck should he rest in any of these matches , giving away the Golden boot to salah . If anyone deserves this it's Messi . Liverpool has a entire system and players feeding Salah . Here Messi is feeding Suarez and still is competing with Salah for golden boot . Unreal . No record book will showcase these facts years later . He will become first player in the history to win 5 European Golden boots if he wins it

Well if what Messi said that he would trade all his personal achievements for a World Cup is true then I think he'll 100% focus on the World Cup after he wins the league. If I were Messi, I would use the remaining time that I have to work with Sampaoli because this Argentina team is far from being favorites and he will have to use whatever time he has to work with players who are already done with their season to build up their team chemistry and understand better the tactics of the coach. I too want him to win the Golden boot but there's still time for that in later seasons while this World Cup is the only time he has to win while being in his prime.
 

RMU ReBorn

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Well if what Messi said that he would trade all his personal achievements for a World Cup is true then I think he'll 100% focus on the World Cup after he wins the league. If I were Messi, I would use the remaining time that I have to work with Sampaoli because this Argentina team is far from being favorites and he will have to use whatever time he has to work with players who are already done with their season to build up their team chemistry and understand better the tactics of the coach. I too want him to win the Golden boot but there's still time for that in later seasons while this World Cup is the only time he has to win while being in his prime.
Is he that stupid to rest and prepare for world cup , were they will get knocked out by Spain in Qf and there by squandering a prestigious individual award
 

Richard.H

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Anybody here think Messi will be able to carry the trash Argentina side to a WC? He would need to go beyond his 2012 form to do so imo.
 

RMU ReBorn

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Anybody here think Messi will be able to carry the trash Argentina side to a WC? He would need to go beyond his 2012 form to do so imo.
Will he cover for the horrendous defense lead by ottamendi ? . Defense win you titles unless your team has the gas to put 3-4 past quality teams , which Argentina doesn't have . Sebella realised that and played defensive football with Messi as the soul force upfront in 2014 . As a result they reached the finals which their 2006 squad couldn't do . That's their only chance . Play shitty football and scrape through to the semi final somehow and fluke it like Portugal 2016 , Greece 2004 , italy -1982 , Chelsea 2012
 

FCBfan22

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Anybody here think Messi will be able to carry the trash Argentina side to a WC? He would need to go beyond his 2012 form to do so imo.

I think a lot will depend on who is playing with him up top. If he has in-form Aguero next to him, anything is possible. I just pray that Sampaoli doesn't take Higuain to the WC as a 1st choice striker. In that case, it really is all on Messi's shoulders. But yeah, in any case, Messi will need to play amazing football at the WC, but even if he does that, can his teammates make profit out of it?
 

soul24rage

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Is he that stupid to rest and prepare for world cup , were they will get knocked out by Spain in Qf and there by squandering a prestigious individual award

Just because one is a favorite doesn't mean that they are 100% guaranteed to win. Not a lot of people expected Portugal to win the Euro 2016 or that Roma will beat us after we have a 4-1 lead. Argentina has a slim chance compared to the other favorites, but it's still a possibility and that doesn't mean that he should/will give up on it. As I said before, this is his only chance to win the World cup in his prime while he'll have other opportunities to win the Golden Boot and I'm betting that he'll work on the former with Sampaoli.
 

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