10 - Lionel Messi - v5

FCB50

Banned
That's a top class goal too, but I prefer Messi's(and not just because I'm a fanboy).. The difficulty to pull that off in high speed edges it for me, every touch was perfect.

I'd give Messi's goal the edge if you count the run and pass from Banega as part of it
 

Sorin

Well-known member
Anybody else notice how many times Messi was on the right flank in the first half? Created lots of chances and there was a lot of width to Argentina attacks. What's the problem with him staying there?

He can't do it for the whole match I think.

His stamina is quite poor tbf.
 

eaman

Active member
Calm down, banega is good, but messi needs to link with dybala, im not a fan of dybala but its obvious. Di maria is a efin disgrace, but he is made for unexpected moments. I think that dybala, higuain and messi are the perfect lineup for their attack. Obvious chemistry between juve players and messi(the most intelligent player of our time) means quick link up play with higuain in third role, not second to messi. Dybala needs to step up if they are to win something

Ya but dybala isn't going to play center mid. The reason they were so poor against Croatia was mainly the lack of a center mid who passes forward and can find Messi. Banega is also a good tackler. I would think about playing dybala for di maria though
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Anybody else notice how many times Messi was on the right flank in the first half? Created lots of chances and there was a lot of width to Argentina attacks. What's the problem with him staying there?

He played RW.

Second half when they scored and sat deeper he went central more and couldnt get on ball.

Be better jut being a penalty box poacher at CF if he is that fucked in 2nd half that doesnt move all that much.
 

Sorin

Well-known member
Ya but dybala isn't going to play center mid. The reason they were so poor against Croatia was mainly the lack of a center mid who passes forward and can find Messi. Banega is also a good tackler. I would think about playing dybala for di maria though

I think their best bet going forward is to have something like this imo:

Mercado---Otamendi---Rojo---Acuna
---Lo Celso---Banega---Pavon
------Messi------Dybala
-----------Aguero

Maybe too attacking, but they have such a poor bunch of midfielders it's stupid.
 

Pedro

La Masia
You guys are forgetting if Argentina do beat France, and Portugal beat Uruguay, then it's Argentina v Portugal in the quarter finals wow...
 

BusiTheKing

Senior Member
Banega should start. Masch is a liability. Dybala is too fucking good not to be on there somewhere. It's ridiculous to me that Sampaoli doesn't accomodate him. Pavon has some speed but him and Meza are simply not good enough to engage in link up play with Messi.

Overall, the lack of composure is frightening. Offensively, they are both anxious and impatient. Defensively, it seems they care more about being physically imposing that winning the ball.
 

TitoTata

Banned
I think their best bet going forward is to have something like this imo:

Mercado---Otamendi---Rojo---Acuna
---Lo Celso---Banega---Pavon
------Messi------Dybala
-----------Aguero

Maybe too attacking, but they have such a poor bunch of midfielders it's stupid.
Mercado was rubbish tonight
 
To beat France they have to play well defensively and well as a team, neither traits which this Argie side has.

France really struggles against teams that limit their time and space on the ball.

If Argentina play the same system they're playing now, leaving gaps everywhere, they will be thrashed. They need to be practical, play strong defenders, pacey attackers, defend well and hit them on the counter.

An open ended affair will not end well for Leo and co.
 

Sorin

Well-known member
Put in Salvio then.

Anyway, the fullbacks are also too poor. In today's game is you don't have decent attacking fullbacks it's impossible to do much of anything.

Tagliafico for example is atrocious at everything. He can't even defend well. Going forward he's horror show. Acuna at least is better at that from what I've seen him at Sporting. Even against us in the CL he was everywhere on that left side. At least he can't be worse than Tagliashito.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Put in Salvio then.

Anyway, the fullbacks are also too poor. In today's game is you don't have decent attacking fullbacks it's impossible to do much of anything.

Tagliafico for example is atrocious at everything. He can't even defend well. Going forward he's horror show. Acuna at least is better at that from what I've seen him at Sporting. Even against us in the CL he was everywhere on that left side. At least he can't be worse than Tagliashito.

Salvio looked lost at RB in first game and poor in second.

Rojo will surely start at LB and he is better than Acuna who just should be nowhere near that squad.

Even Ansaldi is better than likes of Acuna.

I swear could come close to making a better Argies eleven from players who have not started in this WC.
 

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