11 - Neymar Jr. - v4

[JamDav1982]

OK, guys, let's call a day here. Big game tomorrow for our boy. You too JamDav, off the board, Scotland is full of great pubs I hear.

Nah I am at home watching the golf!

Good times.

 

[gasgas]

Aahh...the guy who won 3 CL with Barca....yes I remember him.

2 of them being a fringe player

 

[KingMessi]

2 of them being a fringe player

He was our main forward off the bench in 14/15. That's not a "fringe" player.

 

[BBZ8800]

Absoluet farce to say if dont win CL then 1 in 4 with Neymar then 'questions need to be asked'

In other words,if Ney can't bring at least as many CLs as Messi surrounded by prime Xavi,Iniesta etc, then we should sell him.Seriously?

I love when you are so kind and pretend that we actually bought the most expensive player in a footballing history (his current worth) behind Messi and Cr7 to win La ligas?

Neymar is like Pep to Bayern.
When Bayern brought Pep, they didn't expect "only" Liga titles.
They expected to rule the Europe.

It didn't happen.
Pep had nice stats, like Neymar at Barca, but at the end of the day, Pep didn't bring for what was he hired.

Just a theoretical question:
Imagine Barca's team without Neymar winning a CL 3 times in 8 years.
And then imagine (for example, if we won't win CLs in 2017 and 2018), a team with MSN, the most expensive players ever in our team, winning it 1 in 5 years.

Don't you think that it should be considered as a failure?
Not only Ney's, but Suarez's and Messi's also.

Man Utd didn't buy Pogba to end 4th in EPL.
They are expecting better stuff in the future.

You can pretend how much you want, but we seriously didn't buy Neymar+Suarez (and we already have the one and only Messi), to "settle" down with La Ligas and Cdrs.

If we all agree that on paper Barca is still the best team in the world (on skills).
Then, one more time, just try to imagine if we'll win only 1 CL in 5 Seasons with Neymar or with MSN.

Isn't then something gone wrong?
We have the best and most expensive team ever and yet we are weaker in Europe than in the past.

Something is wrong, isn't it?
Either these players aren't that good, either they aren't clicking that well, or they just have a poor/drained mental strength.

I don't want to sound as if I am preaching, but older Barca's fans needed to suffer for decades while we had much weaker players, teams and coaches in the past.
And now, with the best Barca's team ever (on paper), we should be happy with La ligas and Cdrs?

Well, sorry guys, but lol.

 

[JamDav1982]

You think this is the best Barca ever?

Not many people woild agree with that I dont think.

Also you fail to take into account that other teams have improved in that time. In general the overall standard is higher.

Your 'Neymar needs to be looked at' if one CL in four years is as relevant as saying Messi is declining as one CL in 5 years despite having 'best team in world' around him. In other words it is a ridiculous conclusion that has many more factors than blaming individual players.

The front three are providing the best front line of all time it is the last area of the team that will need looked at if Barca dont win the CL.

It is not MSN fault if the midfield cant support them or compete in the biggest games in CL if they are off form. Or if defence makes mistakes.

Worst argument I have read from you yet on Neymar. Lol.

Why is it 3 CL in 8 years for players before Neymar? You start that time period on the first one won when players like Messi, Iniesta etc were playing before that.

So by those rules if Ney wins this year it would be two CLs in three seasons and he is the greater than players that went before him?

 

[LordLichtenstein]

Champions League is overrated.

Compare our campaign of 2014-15 with Real Madrid's of last year and tell me that competition isn't broken.

 

[jamrock]

Really if Neymar doesn't win the CL x amount of times he is a failure, really because the CL is something that the best team always wins as evidence d by real Madrid last season.

So as the CL is a totally objective competition where the best team always wins he and all players who were apart of the best teams, are all failures for not winning the cl, on a regular basis.

What they should do is just go ahead and play the CL on paper, and after a bit of analytics, wind it down to the top 4, Madrid, Bayern, barca plus 1.

From there a bit more analytics and objective analysis should give us a winner of those 4 teams every year.

After it is done that way Neymar will have won at least 2 cl in the next 5 years.

 

[mark1nhu]

I love when you are so kind and pretend that we actually bought the most expensive player in a footballing history (his current worth) behind Messi and Cr7 to win La ligas?

Neymar is like Pep to Bayern.
When Bayern brought Pep, they didn't expect "only" Liga titles.
They expected to rule the Europe.

It didn't happen.
Pep had nice stats, like Neymar at Barca, but at the end of the day, Pep didn't bring for what was he hired.

The difference here is that Barça won a treble with Neymar being instrumental for it. Bayern from Pep, didn't.

So instrumental that you promised to call him "a club legend" if we managed to achieve that.

#neverforget

 

[Asylum15]

Would like to see a devastatingly clinical performance from him tonight.

 

[Horatio]

Would like to see a devastatingly clinical performance from him tonight.

Would be weird if you wouldn't want to.

 

[Asylum15]

Would be weird if you wouldn't want to.

Thanks for pointing that out Horatio, appreciate it.

 

[Horatio]

Thanks for pointing that out Horatio, appreciate it.

I got your back.

 

[dakt]

He's gonna prove all haters how wrong they are. BBZ you're going down!

 

[JamDav1982]

He's gonna prove all haters how wrong they are. BBZ you're going down!

What would it take for him tonight to prove you wrong?

 

[Neymessi]

He's gonna prove all haters how wrong they are. BBZ you're going down!

Those boring sarcastic remarks just shows you don't want him to do well.

Then you go and play the victim card of being branded a hater when clearly you act like one.