11 - Ousmane Dembélé - V1

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springfield

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Neither Liverpool nor Dortmund want to sell their Player. That most of all is the driving force of the evaluation. Those prices are meant to discourage barca, while still showing the players that they're willing to negoiate with Barca.

No it's no. Barcelona is in a bad position after losing Neymar. Dortmund knows it and take advantage of it. Dortmund rejected the offer, it was to low for them but they are open for negotiations. Liverpool just don't want to sell because klopp wants to keep coutinho so that will depend on if the board bends for the money.
 

Windhook

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No it's no. Barcelona is in a bad position after losing Neymar. Dortmund knows it and take advantage of it. Dortmund rejected the offer, it was to low for them but they are open for negotiations. Liverpool just don't want to sell because klopp wants to keep coutinho so that will depend on if the board bends for the money.

Klopp knows that if he sells Cou for 150m, then it will be on his ass the cosmic price tags, I mean other clubs will know Liverpool have zillions of money to spend.:lol:
 

Total-Football

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disgraceful antics by Dembélé if he really did boycott the training. That failure of an organism should look itself in the Mirror because his whole existence is of no use at all aparently. No laws to protect teams at all.
 

Total-Football

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disgraceful antics by Dembélé if he really did boycott the training. That failure of an organism called UEFA should look itself in the Mirror because his whole existence is of no use at all aparently. No laws to protect teams at all.
 

Yannik

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disgraceful antics by Dembélé if he really did boycott the training. That failure of an organism should look itself in the Mirror because his whole existence is of no use at all aparently. No laws to protect teams at all.

UEFA does it at times but they are inconsistent, Calhanoglu for example got a 4 month football ban.
He wanted to move, Hamburg didn't want to sell. Eventually he faked a mental illness to cancel his Hamburg contract. Then joined Leverkusen.
 

DonAK

President of FC Barcelona
disgraceful antics by Dembélé if he really did boycott the training. That failure of an organism should look itself in the Mirror because his whole existence is of no use at all aparently. No laws to protect teams at all.

What are you even talking about?

Why would there be laws against players ditching training?

Club fined and suspended him.
 

Total-Football

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Well they should be consistent with it .. 4 months is not enough. Players do not sign contract in Pyongyang. They sign of their own will. Respect and honor your obligations, it is as simple as that. Imagine Messi ditching the training to move to city for ex, how would barca fans feel?. When teams invest in a player for 4 years they are also risking paying an ACL injured player or something worse. All that talk about imprisonment and what not is nonsense.
 

puri

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I realise that Dembele as Football Player has no economic knowledge. But who decides what a resonable Price is ? The actors in a market as far as I know. If for Dortmund Dembele is worth more than what Barca offers, why the fuck should they sell ? Because of the good of their hearts or because Barca fans think they should ? The Player has a 4 year contract and no leverage at all. Maybe he isn't smart enough to realise this, but his managment surely is.
Either way - if Dembele isn't a Barca Player in a couple of days, everyone is fucked now. Dortmund, Demeble and Barca.
 

Yannik

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I realise that Dembele as Football Player has no economic knowledge. But who decides what a resonable Price is ? The actors in a market as far as I know. If for Dortmund Dembele is worth more than what Barca offers, why the fuck should they sell ? Because of the good of their hearts or because Barca fans think they should ? The Player has a 4 year contract and no leverage at all. Maybe he isn't smart enough to realise this, but his managment surely is.
Either way - if Dembele isn't a Barca Player in a couple of days, everyone is fucked now. Dortmund, Demeble and Barca.

I'm pretty confident it will happen, it's everyone just hard balling here. Barca trying to get him for 100m, Dortmund want 150m.
Eventually they'll meet in the middle, there's gonna be a lot of clauses and stuff.
 

Lomar1o

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if Dortmund and Liverpool are so righteous and money isn't the issue then why is 150+ mil acceptable for them? F*cking hypocrites. I will never understand how teams keep players against their will. These actions from clubs will result in worse situation than we currently have when it comes to release clauses, agent fees, etc. It will encourage players to defend their 'rights' by adding more and more complicated clauses in their contracts and in the end football will suffer. Players will become money-oriented instead of being joy-oriented. Dembele, Coutinho and Verratti want to leave not because of money, but because of happiness of playing good football, the joy of fighting for actual trophies, playing alongside geniuses of football, and their clubs are DENYING them this opportunity?!?!?! This is just atrocious. Soon everybody will become a f*cking merchant because apparently football clubs don't deserve happy players.
 

Yannik

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if Dortmund and Liverpool are so righteous and money isn't the issue then why is 150+ mil acceptable for them? F*cking hypocrites. I will never understand how teams keep players against their will.

Liverpool is, they said Coutinho is not for sale.
Dortmund isn't, they said we want you to pay the price we think he is worth.

Not sure what makes them hypocrites though, they both declared precisely what they want.
 

barcafan161

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Proven nothing? Dominated both the French and the German league before turning 20. Kicker ranked him as the second best outfield player in the Bundesliga last season among non-Bayern players. Totally different level than Lukaku. And the fact that he can play at the highest level for 10 more years at least is also worth alot.

lol he's not dominated anything
 

puri

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if Dortmund and Liverpool are so righteous and money isn't the issue then why is 150+ mil acceptable for them? F*cking hypocrites. I will never understand how teams keep players against their will. These actions from clubs will result in worse situation than we currently have when it comes to release clauses, agent fees, etc. It will encourage players to defend their 'rights' by adding more and more complicated clauses in their contracts and in the end football will suffer. Players will become Money

The only hypocrite here is you.
A contract is a Obligation for both parties. If Dembele has a serious injury - Dortmund still have to pay is wages. Or could they just stay at home and pout like highschool Girls ? Seeing that a lot of People here are ok with his behaviour make me sick though. I just hope he pulls the same here when PSG offer him 60M wages. Let's see if his dream isn't playing in France then. Probaly makes him happy than. If Money isn't an issue for Players. Why does Dembele get double here ? Souldn't he Play for even less? After all he can Play with geniuses and be happy.
 
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