11 - Ousmane Dembélé - V1

[Barcaman]

Sure, whatever you imagine. Best defensive record in Europe argues otherwise.

Shocking really that team that attacks 80% of time and plays high line can be countered. As if Pep's Barca weren't vulerable on counters.

 

[xXKonan]

Only problem I have with the double pivot of Busi-Rakitic is at times it's cut through too easily due to the lack of pace of both players.

But the system has worked well this season, much better than Lucho's zombie 4-3-3 of last season where the defense didn't have a lot of protection from the Midfield and we were creatively poor as well.

 

[Zincubus]

Only problem I have with the double pivot of Busi-Rakitic is at times it's cut through too easily due to the lack of pace of both players.

But the system has worked well this season, much better than Lucho's zombie 4-3-3 of last season where the defense didn't have a lot of protection from the Midfield and we were creatively poor as well.

Chelsea's Kante would be the perfect partner for Busqs ..

 

[MessiCam]

Sure, whatever you imagine. Best defensive record in Europe argues otherwise.

Shocking really that team that attacks 80% of time and plays high line can be countered. As if Pep's Barca weren't vulerable on counters.

That’s not the point I’m making. My point is that the double pivot leads to 1 vs 1 or 3 vs 2 situations on the counter. It’s easier for the opposition then. When you’re giving up 3/4 clear counters in one half of football then it’s time to re-evaluate.

Peps 09/10 team conceded only 24... The 10/11 team conceded only 21... Lucho’s 14/15 team conceded only 21 as well. What’s your point about the defensive record?

The notion that 4-4-2 or 4-2-3-1 is better defensively is crazy.

 

[MessiCam]

Only problem I have with the double pivot of Busi-Rakitic is at times it's cut through too easily due to the lack of pace of both players.

But the system has worked well this season, much better than Lucho's zombie 4-3-3 of last season where the defense didn't have a lot of protection from the Midfield and we were creatively poor as well.

This was because we basically played with 2 CMs because Rakitic was pulled wide to cover for Messi. When Lucho switched to the 3-3-1-3 it corrected itself.

 

[Barcaman]

That’s not the point I’m making. My point is that the double pivot leads to 1 vs 1 or 3 vs 2 situations on the counter. It’s easier for the opposition then. When you’re giving up 3/4 clear counters in one half of football then it’s time to re-evaluate.

Peps 09/10 team conceded only 24... The 10/11 team conceded only 21... Lucho’s 14/15 team conceded only 21 as well. What’s your point about the defensive record?

The notion that 4-4-2 or 4-2-3-1 is better defensively is crazy.

No it's not, it's just your opinion that 4-3-3 is better and it's based on no data.

And yeah, don't bring numbers into argument if they don't help you. We are on course to have the best defensive record in recent history, best than any Pep's Barca team ever managed. We were far more prone to counters under pep as well.

 

[JamDav1982]

The 4-3-3 used to countered as well.

There is no formation that can stop that.

Peps Barca used to try and keep the ball at all costs and then it could be a bit of mayhem defending if other team broke through midfield.

This side is more balanced and any chances should be more difficult for opposition.

It is a bit like Burnley or Atletico do. Not so bothered about giving up no chances just dont want to give up easy ones.

 

[MessiCam]

No it's not, it's just your opinion that 4-3-3 is better and it's based on no data.

And yeah, don't bring numbers into argument if they don't help you. We are on course to have the best defensive record in recent history, best than any Pep's Barca team ever managed. We were far more prone to counters under pep as well.

I don’t care about the data. My assessment is based on the players we have and getting the best players on the field. Players that cost a lot of money which you don’t want integrated based on this crazy notion that we’re better off defensively.

This Barça side concedes a fair few chances, more chances than any Pep Barcelona. That we’ve conceded so little is due to MaTS being on fire.

 

[Barcaman]

Stop making stuff up, I never said I don't want players integrated.

Pep's Barca conceded close to 30 goals, others playing 4-3-3 even 40.
You could argue we are scoring less maybe but continuing arguing against 4-2-2 because we are weaker defensively is just stupid.

Thanx for confirming you are pulling stuff from your ass as your argument has no legs to stand on other than your obsession for 4-3-3.

Btw. You're the same guy who wanted Messi to join City because Barca were dead?
Explains a lot

 

[MessiCam]

Stop making stuff up, I never said I don't want players integrated.

Pep's Barca conceded close to 30 goals, others playing 4-3-3 even 40.
You could argue we are scoring less maybe but continuing arguing against 4-2-2 because we are weaker defensively is just stupid.

Thanx for confirming you are pulling stuff from your ass as your argument has no legs to stand on other than your obsession for 4-3-3.

Btw. You're the same guy who wanted Messi to join City because Barca were dead?
Explains a lot

Firstly, I think you have me confused with somebody else. I never wanted Messi to leave and I never said Barça are dead. Ever. Secondly, I Don’t pull stuff out my ass because it tends to hurt.

Now let me school you. Barcelona have faced 214 shots on goal in 22 games. That’s nearly 10 per game... Eibar... Fucking Eibar has faced only 182. Man City only 174 in 27 games... Napoli also 182 in 24 games...

Peps, average conceded over 4 years was 27 goals per season. It was 35, 24, 21, 29.

Like I said, it’s a myth that we’re better defensively. MaTS is just having the season of his life.

I think you’re the one pulling stuff out your ass...

 

[FCBfan22]

Barcelona have faced 214 shots on goal in 22 games. That’s nearly 10 per game... Eibar... Fucking Eibar has faced only 182. Man City only 174 in 27 games... Napoli also 182 in 24 games...

Just one thing. I think that it's important to note that a lot of these shots are from outside the box, because MATS was known to have brainfarts during those, so the teams are trying. Unsuccessfully, though.

 

[JamDav1982]

Shots on goal is not the whole story. Been through this before.

As much as anything it is the type of chances giving away more than how many shots the other team gets.

Eibar who have conceded 34 have a better defence than Atletico who have conceded 9 and Real Madrid have a better defence than Barca?

Who knew.

 

[Windhook]

DEMBOUZ!!!!

 

[MessiCam]

Just one thing. I think that it's important to note that a lot of these shots are from outside the box, because MATS was known to have brainfarts during those, so the teams are trying. Unsuccessfully, though.

It’s the same with other teams. Barça aren’t special in that regard.

 

[PhilS]

He's going to be a huge asset, whether he starts or comes off the bench. His speed entering the game when the defenders are already tired, I can't wait.

13 players will play in every big game, Dembele will be one of them. It does not make much difference who starts, all will play plenty.