11 - Ousmane Dembélé - V1

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JamDav1982

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Dembele has been nowhere near good enough for his price tag yet. Even for half that really.

Very raw and sloppy with some good moments thrown in.

Obviously still young but he wont get as much leeway next season so will need to improve a lot.
 
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Afromaticz

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Pique and Suarez? You might not be correct. They despite having flaws played their roles.

Dembele had not had one notable performance other than the Chelsea goal. He's not being criticized because of being a young player.

Pique was meh and Suarez was horrible yesterday
And let's be fair here Dembele played well against Atletic, Malaga, Girona, Celta and Chelsea and was decent against Juve and Espanyol before he got injured. Not too shabby for a kid that was gone for 2/3 of the season
 

Barcaman

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Next season is key for him. This season was/is about adapting and mentality and tbh. he has a long way to go in those departments.
 

serghei

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The problem is that we as a club demand a higher consistency, which is easy to say, but hard to master, since consistency of doing a thing is often more difficult than the thing itself. Basically, keep the good stuff he's doing but time it better. Here going through 2 times and wasting 4 is no go, because we don't employ Dortmund's or Liverpool's crazy (often suicidal pressing) to get it back. We more often go in a low block these days, so every ball you lose easily means us having to spend more time defending than we'd want.

He doesn't have to force 1 vs 1 all the time like Neymar did, because he doesn't win as many of those as to warrant trying it more often (not even Neymar did a lot of times). Less time on the ball for him and use him more off the ball until he takes better care of the balls is not as wasteful.

I think his defensive attitude needs work too, but it's still quite decent.
 
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Pique was meh and Suarez was horrible yesterday
And let's be fair here Dembele played well against Atletic, Malaga, Girona, Celta and Chelsea and was decent against Juve and Espanyol before he got injured. Not too shabby for a kid that was gone for 2/3 of the season

Pique was actually covering the disastrous performance of Umtiti alongside Roberto. Dembele never tracking back doesn't help him either. If Suarez was said to be disaster, then how can you say Dembele had good game against Chelsea? He was terrible other than the goal isn't it? You've listed 5 matches. Can you tell me one clear cut chance he created as a winger from build up play?
 
His maturity is natural for his age, the problem is people expect the finished article for the fee. Dortmund paid 10 mill a year before

It's not about the fee. It's how his tactical awareness is. Coutinho who struggled earlier is now the second most important attacking threat. Angel Correa, Asensio and Mbappe are what you call world class young talents. When you watch the match you don't get the impression that they are younger than their team mates. It's because they are executing their tactical role brilliantly. They are in sync with the flow of the team play.
 
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Ritchie

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It's not about the fee. It's how his tactical awareness is. Coutinho who struggled earlier is now the second most important attacking threat. Angel Correa, Asensio and Mbappe are what you call world class young talents. When you watch the match you don't get the impression that they are younger than their team mates. It's because they are executing their tactical role brilliantly. They are in sync with the flow of the team play.

Asensio and Correa are 22/23 which is a big difference.

Mbappe is probably the best young player around but he's still not that consistent yet.
 
Asensio and Correa are 22/23 which is a big difference.

Mbappe is probably the best young player around but he's still not that consistent yet.

Then fans should stop demanding him to be a starter in each and every match. And he should accept the role of being a substitute. It's irritating to see fans calling Griezmann as an unnecessary signing since Dembele is there. As you said, if mbappe who is playing like world class is squandering clear cut chances against RM which could have turned the tie, what is the reason behind fans wanting to start Demebele to start champions league matches?
 

JamDav1982

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Dembele despite his cost is not ready to be a gteed starter in every game going on this season.

The likes of Griezmann is needed in this squad with a young player like Dembele and Suarez not quite the player he was and that is only going one way.
 

Ritchie

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Then fans should stop demanding him to be a starter in each and every match. And he should accept the role of being a substitute. It's irritating to see fans calling Griezmann as an unnecessary signing since Dembele is there. As you said, if mbappe who is playing like world class is squandering clear cut chances against RM which could have turned the tie, what is the reason behind fans wanting to start Demebele to start champions league matches?

The team is too slow otherwise, particularly without Semedo. For too long we've been assembling a midfield of turtles and Suarez isn't as quick as he was, Iniesta semi retired, Coutinho ineligible.

If it's Dembele or Paulinho or Andre Gomes then what are fans going to prefer?
 
The team is too slow otherwise, particularly without Semedo. For too long we've been assembling a midfield of turtles and Suarez isn't as quick as he was, Iniesta semi retired, Coutinho ineligible.

If it's Dembele or Paulinho or Andre Gomes then what are fans going to prefer?

I don't know much about football. But I prefer Alcacer. Atleast he plays along the flow of the attack and is decent in link up plays. I don't know a single reason why Paulinho plays. But, demebele is certainly not an answer.
 
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MessiCam

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I don't know much about football. But I prefer Alcacer. Atleast he plays along the flow of the attack and is decent in link up plays. I don't know a single reason why Paulinho plays. But, demebele is certainly not an answer.
Alcacer decent in link ups? I want what you’re smoking sir.

He has about as much positional discipline as Paulinho and can’t dribble an 8 week old puppy.

Dembélé lacks when it comes to the tactical aspects of the Barça game but he is dangerous when he has the ball. Alcacer offers nothing other than abandoning his positions to take up spots in the box. He’s atrocious.

And regarding Dembélé... What do you expect the guy to do when Rakitic and Paulinho don’t provide him with balls. Between the 2 of them they sent balls in Dembélé’s direction a grand total of twice in about 60 minutes. Dembélé was left to play Roberto. I can understand it because the midfield was extremely poor but that sort of service is just unacceptable.

Suárez was about the only player trying to activate Dembélé.
 
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