Givenchy
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woah it seems like he hugs pique and then realises 'im hugging pique!'
seems hes a real Barca fan which is awesome to see.
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woah it seems like he hugs pique and then realises 'im hugging pique!'
seems hes a real Barca fan which is awesome to see.
henias
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It only took less than 20 mins for Dembele to create a goal.
Neymar was a much better talent individually, no doubt. But he became less team oriented over the years, compared to when he first came to Barca - he was humble, ready to learn, became a better team player than when he was in Santos. It was how he played that formed MSN and played the vital role to Barca's treble in 2015.
However, while his confidence grew, it overflowed and fed to his ego, turning him back to his old self back in Santos. He was entertaining to watch for sure, but it wasnt effective, it just led to him drawing useless fouls and losing the ball. Suarez found it hard to connect with him and all I see was Messi the one trying to connect with both Suarez and Neymar. The stats showed it all. I remember he was trying to dribble down the flank alone against PSG 1st leg, and Neymar fans claimed nobody supported him then. But he cant possibly dribble alone when the opponents were comfortably sitting back in their half. It became disastrous and led to the infamous 4-0 in Paris.
Neymar lacked the team understanding Pedro, Sanchez had. Im sure Dembele loves Barca alot and would definitely connect on the same level with Messi and Suarez. Defo a very shy and introverted kid but I would take that over an inflated ego. Barcelona was never about one player. Even till today Messi was still very much the humble team player when he was at the age of 19. Thats what made him so special even till today.
Neymar was a much better talent individually, no doubt. But he became less team oriented over the years, compared to when he first came to Barca - he was humble, ready to learn, became a better team player than when he was in Santos. It was how he played that formed MSN and played the vital role to Barca's treble in 2015.
However, while his confidence grew, it overflowed and fed to his ego, turning him back to his old self back in Santos. He was entertaining to watch for sure, but it wasnt effective, it just led to him drawing useless fouls and losing the ball. Suarez found it hard to connect with him and all I see was Messi the one trying to connect with both Suarez and Neymar. The stats showed it all. I remember he was trying to dribble down the flank alone against PSG 1st leg, and Neymar fans claimed nobody supported him then. But he cant possibly dribble alone when the opponents were comfortably sitting back in their half. It became disastrous and led to the infamous 4-0 in Paris.
Neymar lacked the team understanding Pedro, Sanchez had. Im sure Dembele loves Barca alot and would definitely connect on the same level with Messi and Suarez. Defo a very shy and introverted kid but I would take that over an inflated ego. Barcelona was never about one player. Even till today Messi was still very much the humble team player when he was at the age of 19. Thats what made him so special even till today.
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Potroh
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In the beginning of the 15/16 season Messi was injured for two months.
Suarez and Neymar took over and by great understanding between the two, both scored a lot and the team won most games and won spectacularly...
blaugrana1987
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Neymar much more talented? I dont know. Dembele is statistically (goals, assist, chance created, dribbles etc) better in Europe then Neymar was at his first season here (22yr old).
Lol at people comparing 20 years old Dembele with 26 years old Neymar. Also for those saying Neymar is not team oriented, I say shame on you. A player's role in the pitch is mainly dictated by the manager. Look at PSG now, Neymar is playing the Messi role and setting crazy key passes
aaron101
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Dembele is basically the complete opposite of Neymar and I love it!
henias
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He was spectacular that season without a doubt. But I was referring more to season 16/17 where he became more self driven and kinda lost focus on the team's fundamental play.
Well, in Barca, he wasnt quite the main man's role. He is trying to overdo what his actual role entails, as he wants to be in the limelight and have that bigger presence on the pitch. Understandbly, though, he's definitely overgrown himself and learnt alot from his compatriot Messi. But I didnt say he WASN'T a team player, I said he became less team oriented. His focus was more on himself, sometimes lost in his temper, lack of patience, which defeats the whole purpose of tiki taka. What he's doing now for PSG is due to having more of that main man role, but not in Barca.
Does it mean Alexis Sanchez is a better player in Arsenal than he was in Barca? No. He's equally great. But he understands his role very well for both clubs, thus Barca was able to still win trophies after trophies with him.
It's fortunate that Messi was still able to connect very well with Neymar, but when Messi's trying to play via patience build-up with Suarez and the likes, there he is running down the flank alone. He does like to get into the action quick like in Brazil and Santos but it shouldnt be the case in Barca. Nonetheless, he's still a rare talent but since his mind is in somewhere else now, Dembele might actually be a good replacement.
He had good moments of individual dribbles, performance that season for sure, but it should not take away his lack of team consistency, tactics, structure that Barca needs.
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ATLBarcaFan
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Not a huge sample size but nice debut
They are no compatriots. I would say even they are fierce rivals.
KingLeo10
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rivals implies similar levels. only CR7's accomplishments are anywhere close to messi's over the past 10 years.
Potroh
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Well, you've said he didn't have "that" good understanding with Suarez, which was definitely not the case. When Messi was unable to play back then, the two of them were spectacular without Messi.
Ousmane Dembélé
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Spectacular for what 2 months? He went to complete shit that year as well once the new year began.
ThwiX
Best midfielder around
Messi finally just followed him on Instagram too. The kid is really living his dream.
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