11 - Raphinha

Barcaman

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Humiliation against their biggest rivals, after trash talking them?
First time brazil concedes 4 goals in a qualifier as well.
Have not lost this badly against Argentina since 1959.

Don't think they care that much. This Brazil is not on the same level as most of their previous squads.

Don't know, I just don't see it as tragic.
 

jormatar

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Raphinha got what he deserved when he was being attacked verbally on the pitch and by the crowd. Martinez's tackle was a bit unnecessary and plainly unsportsmanlike. You just don't run into someone like that from a blindspot.

I give Raphinha kudos how he handled the pressure by not losing his shit and not starting to retaliate more physically which could have led to some bad outcomes.

Give it one week and no one remember anything that happened in the game or was said before the game.
 

jaype

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Does not work like that.

Argentina and Messi were hugely criticised for 15 years and won fuckall with that "motivation" until the Copa win. If anything the team was infamous for crumbling in high pressure moments.

You need a good balanced group, team sprit, star players and manager to be a good national team. Motivation isn't enough on its own. With this Scaloni team, they have finally struck the right balance. They're levels above current Brazil and would win today either way.
of course, not saying that's the reason they won. But it is an extra motivation. Arch-rivals talking shit before match, you bet they are going to want to prove a point. Does it mean you'll win? not necessarily, it's football after all, you can be massively superior to the other team and still loose.

yeah, don't disagree with the last sentence. There's plenty of examples of it not working if your team is not well balanced. Arg 2010 comes to mind (granted Maradona as a coach is like that team did not have a coach at all :facepalm: ), stacked in attack, but everything else meh. Recent Brazil, etc...
 

CatalinR10

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Kul_z

Senior Member
And as expected the Argentine players are saying Raphinha's comments just motivated them even more and basically told him to shut up the next time and do his talking on the pitch instead.

IMO there's some nations you just don't shit talk to beforehand. Argentines, ex-Yugoslavian, Balkans countries.

These guys just take it very personally and use it to motivate themselves even more.
In croatia there is even a song written after world cup 98 when germans talked shit about croatia, that we are no match for them, that we are weak and so on. I always watch that game before wc or euro to hype me up.
 

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