11 - Raphinha

AnfieldEd

I am Leg End
LOL at the insane fee. He's very talented but mentally weak and I don't like players who give up when circumstances get tough like it did for him at Leeds during that relegation battle.

He'll play better with better players and look very good and is in his prime but for that fee you'd want a bigger output than he'll provide.
 

feggydinho

Senior Member
He's not worth that amount now. What he'll be worth in 10 months or a year, not even professional scouters know.

Look at Salah. In retrospect, he was worth 2-3 times more than what they paid for him and that was revealed pretty fast. Everyone was like "wait a minute, they have a home run here".

That's what we need to understand. The value of a player is very hard to determine at a given point when the parameters that obviously dictate it (performances at the top level) are unknown. Because if the outcome of those setups would be known, you'd be talking about players like Salah, Mbappe, which are unobtainable for a club in our position from all points of view.

We don't know how Raphinha will react in a CL match with a bigger, better team behind him. Receiving passes from Pedri, passing potentially to Lewandowski, and stuff like that. Too many wild variables, which will trigger unknown outcomes.

What we see now is a bullshit BBZ approach where everyone throws dirt on every signing, based on the true but superficial pretext that, statistically, most players don't rise up to the potential. But nobody has any clue which does and which doesn't.

Right now, we don't know much and Raphinha for 73-75m would start his affair causing skepticism. Including for me. That could wash away pretty fast if the guy comes in and plays at a world class level. Nobody knows if that will happen or not. That's the bottom line.

Liverpool bought Salah for around 38m, and that Salah had scored 15 league goals and 11 assist that season so that fee was good. That's not the case here, and it's very true that he can just blow up here and become world class, but the honest truth is that we?re massively overpaying for him and hoping he turns world class. Time would tell if it was a good decision, but for now it's very wrong considering the club's economic situation
 

Porque

Senior Member
Fee has entered Nkunku territory. Ofc Raphinha fits the desired tactics more.

What's the alternative's on the market for the same role? Domenico Berardi?

Raphinha fits alot of the checkmarks (age, experience in top leagues, ability, style of play) that are difficult to find right now in attacking positions, both wide and up top.
 
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gregorrin10

Senior Member
LOL at the insane fee. He's very talented but mentally weak and I don't like players who give up when circumstances get tough like it did for him at Leeds during that relegation battle.

He'll play better with better players and look very good and is in his prime but for that fee you'd want a bigger output than he'll provide.

How exactly did he give up? He scored in the crucial moment on the last day of the season to help them survive. As far as weeks before when he didn't score or assist, he was basically being asked to play more RWB than RW in that time...
 

Luftstalag14

Culé de Celestial Empire
How can Barca afford Raphinha?
Are Barca a shady club?
What about the economic levers?
Laughing at Barca
...........

Discussion on these topics on Talksport.

https://youtu.be/UtMR1R0EFps

Give me a reason why we should care about some random brits talking shit.

Shady club? Can't be shadier than those English clubs owned by states and billionaires, and especially those who pretend their fans actually have a say. :lol:
 

Temptation

Well-known member
Talksport is entertaining. Pretty sure they have super dumb pundits like Agbonlahor up for just comic relief. Good radio.
 

Temptation

Well-known member
Give me a reason why we should care about some random brits talking shit.

Shady club? Can't be shadier than those English clubs owned by states and billionaires, and especially those who pretend their fans actually have a say. :lol:

I didn't really ask anyone to care. It's just a discussion clip with few people giving their opinion on this matter.
 

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