FinBarcelonafan
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Brilliant brilliant brilliant.
He is the glue for this team.
He is the glue for this team.
11 - Raphinha
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Loki
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As expected and predicted in the summer, Rapha benefits the most out of Flick's fast pace football. Our game has now more similarities with the english football than under Xavi's slow ball and Rapha feels like a fish in the water if can run around the entire pitch with full speed. It doesn't even matter if he plays on the left side or behind the striker like yesterday because of Fati. The whole pitch is his position anyways. He finally looks like the player we hoped he'd be paying €60m.
Rapha will never be the technical genious Neymar was, but he doesn't need to be. He makes up for that with effort big enough for 3 players. Absolutely no need anymore to go for Nico next summer.
Rapha will never be the technical genious Neymar was, but he doesn't need to be. He makes up for that with effort big enough for 3 players. Absolutely no need anymore to go for Nico next summer.
To be fair to Xavi. He managed to figure out how best to utilize Raphi at the tail-end of last season during our hot run.
Fati_Future_BallonDor
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Take a knife and cut it into 2 halfes 🔪🍉
soul24rage
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Ever since he moved to the LW/CAM position, he breathed a new life and his attitude is top notch.
May it continue for a long time
May it continue for a long time
Gazzznigga
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Vinicius.
Ter Stature
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A player that abandons his national team, like a cheap whore.
Yes. In the mind of the media and playing the victim a GOAT.
Yes. In the mind of the media and playing the victim a GOAT.
Typical knee-jerk reaction. But you're a low tier troll here anyway. Raphinha has been consistently great since the start of the season.
Temptation
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That's racist! I'm gonna cry now.
Gazzznigga
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What has that got to do with rating the best Brazilian?
Gazzznigga
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Are you a moderator/administrator or someone who cant tolerate a different perspective from the herd one?
I recall you were the same fellow who threatened to ban me for having a different view from yours on one of the threads.
Come on! Admins and mods are tolerant as far as i know. Dont see you threatening xenophobe and racists with a ban since i have been a silent observer of this forum more than a decade ago.
Grow up bro!!
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100% Winning playing a dominant offensive game will always be preferred. RM fans get salty because they shithouse a win in a watered down UCL that currently has about 3 clubs capable of winning the competition. While having superstars that usually play like ass for 50% of every game. They can't fathom the circus that was Peps Barca or MSN. Only Bayern has matched those sidess in level somewhat.
Barca UCL against Arsenal is not remembered because the team wasn't that great that year. Barca'a Dream Team and 2009, 2011, 2015 are all legendary squads for a reason. Nobody gives a damn about Real Madrid vs Dortmund final last year.
Gazzznigga
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....bolded. It is hilarious this is coming from a fan of the club that won its first UCL defeating Sampdoria with a lone goal. Same set of people hitting the roofs with their heads 3 seasons ago when Barca won the league playing the most atrocious football in the last 2 decades under Xavi have suddenly become advocates of football being beautiful without winning.I understand if you want to throw objectivity away when it comes to discussions on Barca because you are a fan, but being delusional all the time is comical. I am a Barca fan and have been for decades but i don't let that overrule my reasoning.
Who wouldn't want to win while playing dominant and attractive football. That was never in contention.
Question was choosing between playing so beautifully and losing vs playing so poorly but then winning.
History will be kinder to one of those....and guaranteed it will certainly not be the "beautiful loser".
50/60 years from now when you all dead and buried, little will be known about how beautifully Barca MSN played while losing to Athletico,Juve, etc....in the UCL but record will remember the eventual winners more whether players put in 50% or 10% of their talent in winning.
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Maradona37
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Yes. People who say it's just about winning have an ok point, ultimately that goes down in the history books. But we now live in an era where everything is recorded - unlike the first half of the 20th century, the 90s onwards have so much footage that can be watched. Hence, people can educate themselves on who the most entertaining, dominant teams are and were.
Surely if you win by squeaking by you aren't really displaying your dominance or superiority as a team? You're 'winning', but not really showcasing that you are much better than other teams. The reason Barcelona were so good is because other teams were forced to bend to their will and compromise their own game to stop Barca, as you say. Whereas recent Real Madrid teams have won because the opponent wasn't scared to go toe to toe with them, and that allowed Real to expose space they left. No denying their counter-attacking ability but dominant possession teams (in big games) will always marvel more as they can dominate throughout a game rather than in spells and moments.
That Gazzznigga guy (I am loath to use his name as he's clearly a troll looking for attention and I am daftly giving him it) produced a post that proves he doesn't really get the essence of football. He basically said Greece '04 are remembered as much as teams that play great football, because the achievement was the same. Winning while playing wank football is empty and hollow (not so much for Greece as they were underdogs, but definitely for bigger teams who play attritional football) - I am sure players love looking at their medals when they do that, but deep down they know they weren't actually superior. Like I say, the Netherlands sides of '74 and' 78 and the Hungary side of '54 are looked upon more fondly than the teams that beat them in the respective World Cup Finals of those years. Everyone still remembers Portugal '66. Brazil '82 are more beloved in their homeland than the '94 and '02 victors. This is when football becomes art and more about leaving a legacy in the history of the game (as Hungarian and Dutch Total Football did, despite winning fuck all).
Guys like Gazzznigga will never understand that though. Football is emotionless to people like that, it isn't about art or aesthetics for him as it is for you and I. For him it's all about winning even if you do it in the most desperate manner. He doesn't understand that some of the great teams he gets to watch now were built on the foundations and principles of those past teams I reference that won fuck all. They were pioneers, and didn't have to win to be remembered.
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