19 - Lamine Yamal

[JamDav1982]

Lamine was doing the same a few times.

So too did Pedri, FDJ, Fermin.. Lewa when on.. Ferran when on.

The players can deal with it.

What is not good if they start doing it for show or times not justified but wasnt case last night.

About every time players got pissed off with poor final ball they were correct.

 

[DonAK]

Top players do get frustrated at times when passes don't go their way, when others miss chances off their passes.

Happens all the time and it used to happen under Pep and Lucho as well. And as others have said this is not only limited to Lamine, Raphinha or Lewandowski. Can see the same with Pedri when these guys keep missing big chances off his passes

That's not an attitude issue or an ego issue either. Just players eager to do better. Seems like people have forgotten how 99% of elite or good players actually behave since we had a couple of years playing absolute bums in our team that didn't do it since they were just happy to be here.

 

[Horatio]

Frustration is one thing.

Raphinha is someone that gets swept up in emotions. Raphinha also has huge sense of injustice. Type that won’t pass it back deliberately cause he wasn’t given the pass.

I know these type of people.

 

[JamDav1982]

Frustration is one thing.

Raphinha is someone that gets swept up in emotions. Raphinha also has huge sense of injustice. Type that won’t pass it back deliberately cause he wasn’t given the pass.

I know these type of people.

That is not accurate.

Could make that same claim about any of the attackers last night but is not what is happening.

 

[Andresito]

he got pissed af at Lamine when didn’t pass.

Needs to temper anger

Rightly so, sometimes when there is a better choice they need to hear it. Doesn't matter who it is. They represent Barca, not themselves. Can't seek all glory yourself. Lamine should've passed, if he'd score nobody would say anything but he also has to be prepared to get shit if he fucks it up.

 

[DonAK]

Frustration is one thing.

Raphinha is someone that gets swept up in emotions. Raphinha also has huge sense of injustice. Type that won’t pass it back deliberately cause he wasn’t given the pass.

I know these type of people.

I don't see this from him at all. He's one of the most selfless players in the team.

Would I have liked him to pass the ball to Ferran for a 100% tap-in? Of course, but how many times have we seen Raphinha score from that position this season? Multiple, and in big games as well. I don't blame him for trusting himself, even though it was the wrong decision.

It is definitely not what you are suggesting though.

 

[JamDav1982]

Barca will get a lot of goals due to the way likes of Raphinha and Yamal back themselves 100%.. sometimes they will back themselves in situation others better placed but that is inevitable.

Same time nothing wrong with others pointing it out when they do.. bet your bottom dollar Flick will.

Players need that belief and they are two of the most selfless players going in terms of chances they create and effort they put in on both sides of the ball.

 

[Horatio]

I don't see this from him at all. He's one of the most selfless players in the team.

Would I have liked him to pass the ball to Ferran for a 100% tap-in? Of course, but how many times have we seen Raphinha score from that position this season? Multiple, and in big games as well. I don't blame him for trusting himself, even though it was the wrong decision.

It is definitely not what you are suggesting though.

Raphinha operates on a belief system where respect is held very high. He believes he’s being respectful to us by for example being honest about situations and not sugarcoat things in media and considered pitiful when is done so. This is also why he challenged Argentina before hand. Cause he sees aftertiming as weakness. He wanted to announce their trashing before hand. Something that Argentina never dares to do for example.

But thing with people like that is they expect the respect to be reciprocated in equal amount. So can fall quickly into judgmental thinking like “I respect you by doing this, but then you do this to me? you are a bad person”

Pschology 101

 

[JamDav1982]

Just dont see that at all.

Raphinha was not playing well and looked a bit anxious distracted and making some poor decisions but that comes more from wanting to win so much than it about being arrogance or trying to teach team mates a lesson.

Flick would aim to stamp that out immediately.

 

[Horatio]

Hopefully I am wrong. We need Raphina in form.

But we have seen him lose control at various instances before.

 

[Temptation]

So can fall quickly into judgmental thinking like “I respect you by doing this, but then you do this to me? you are a bad person”

Pschology 101

Yeah. Stick to analysing hair transplants man.

 

[Horatio]

Yeah. Stick to analysing hair transplants man.

Be honest. You were impressed

 

[Horatio]

Another example is Rapinha pushing Vinicius off the pitch. He considers that disrespectful . Man has strong values.

Or wanting to carry the “injured” player off the court for stalling.

 

[Temptation]

Be honest. You were impressed

I was. But then I'm impressed by Fati saying shit like "Humblenaldo" too so........

 

[JamDav1982]

Another example is Rapinha pushing Vinicius off the pitch. He considers that disrespectful . Man has strong values.

Or wanting to carry the “injured” player off the court for stalling.

Raphinha pushing Vini was nothing to do with respect he wanted to avoid him getting a yellow.

To be honest it looked like Vini was wanting a yellow and to avoid Argentina game. The way he went at ref then delayed going off was gagging to be booked.