21 - Frenkie de Jong
- Thread starter Horatio
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jairzinho
Senior Member
We missed out. Tan Haag's gone.
Birdy
Senior Member
WTF is this post mate?
Your 'analogy' fails all logic
If you don't do your job properly, your boss will fire you
If your boss thinks that you underperform given your wages, they will fire you
You can't have your cake and eat it too, because you don't hold all cards.
You actually might be holding very weak cards compared to your boss.
Club cannot kick Frenkie and every underperforming player out.
That's the crucial difference.
The best club can do is mount pressure on them via various avenues, and the last resort is individual training block them from playing games.
Simple as that
You can do better than that
PS: Please cut the BS about 'throwing away money given to him'.
Everybody in the club took advantage of an idiot that was running the club before.
Regime changed, practices changed, wages changed (although still very high IMO)
If a player doesn't get that, then he should not be part of the future of the club anyway
Birdy
Senior Member
A goal as a sub in a done and dusted game doesn't change shit
He should still go.
My claim for petition still stands:
He should still go.
My claim for petition still stands:
FinBarcelonafan
Well-known member
I am glad he got points. Now we can milk United for ten or fifteen more millions.
TheStig
Member
Frenkie does his job, I never once heard he missed a training or do anything unprofessional. Until his injuries he was a starter for years and one of our best midfielders. We can't say he didn't do his job even if he never justified all the money invested in him.
It doesn't work like that, he has a valid legal contract. He doesn't have to change anything if he doesn't want to but seems you can't accept that so we can agree to disagree. We agree in fundamentals, I also want FDJ gone but I don't think he did anything wrong and I understand if he milks this until 2026 even if I don't like it.
It doesn't work like that, he has a valid legal contract. He doesn't have to change anything if he doesn't want to but seems you can't accept that so we can agree to disagree. We agree in fundamentals, I also want FDJ gone but I don't think he did anything wrong and I understand if he milks this until 2026 even if I don't like it.
Birdy
Senior Member
He was never 'one of our best midfielders' because he has always underperformed, be it with Valverde Koeman Setien Xavi, you name it
I did not talk about his contract being invalid.
I said that kind of mentality and attitude does not belong.
That is enough of a reason to sell him.
TheStig
Member
He underperformed but he was still one of our best midfielders, probably the best in the last 5 years altogether. Not because he was so good but because other were worse or inconsistent.
What mentality? He trains normally, he's a professional and he was a starter and one of the pillars of the team for years until the recent injuries happened. I still don't see what he is doing wrong. He's not (yet) some Lenglet/Umtiti to leach the club, get high salary and not play for years and even they didn't really do anything wrong, it's Laporta's pal's fault that those things happened, not the players.
If my employer offered me 10x wage than my current one I would take it in a second, I wouldn't say that to high for my abilities.
BusiTheKing
Senior Member
In the not-so-distant past, there were times where De Jong was the only guy on the pitch with proper off-the-ball running. He might not have been a world-beater but he took a lot of responsibility for keeping things moving in an otherwise apathetic, docile team, and I still have respect him for that.
Now things are looking a lot different and he hasn't found a new role. There are no guarantees if he can't make it work but he deserves a proper chance. He's not even fully fit yet ffs. This hysterical media-fueled crusade is a joke.
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